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Jessica B wrote:
Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Those aluminum "Fortress" or Fortress-copy anchors are, indeed, too light for their size until you get into the largest sizes. If you shipped one of comparable weight (and thus huge in size) as your Danforth it would hold better in most conditions where the holding was adequate, bottom composition-wise, by virtue of it's greater surface area. But, consider this. Compare a 15 pound Herreschoff fisherman anchor and a 21 pound Danforth. In certain bottoms the Herreschoff will hold like crazy, (rocky, pitted bottoms mostly where a fluke can fall into a small pit and snag) while the heavier Danforth will just end up skittering along. So, weight does matter but it is only one factor. . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? |
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Jessica B wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. So you would use it just when you want to stop for lunch? Is it really that much of a difference? Seems like it would take up a lot of space and not get you much. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. ?? I think most women can do the work. How heavy are you talking about?? And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. Stern? Isn't that inconvenient when you need it on the front? Then, you have to bring it up there and attach it? But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Why not have two different kinds on the bow? And one lighter than the other. Seems like it would give you more flexibility and satisfy your notion that women can't lift heavy objects. :-) |
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Jessica B wrote:
snipped And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. Stern? Isn't that inconvenient when you need it on the front? Then, you have to bring it up there and attach it? The cockpit is aft. That's were I play most of the time. Our marina is very tight in places. Loss of power, or whatever, might necessitate a quick stop. Hence the stern anchor. It takes ten seconds to deploy. Question back atcha... Why do you have to anchor off the bow? We get a better breeze stern-to. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Why not have two different kinds on the bow? And one lighter than the other. Seems like it would give you more flexibility and satisfy your notion that women can't lift heavy objects. :-) -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Do you keep the stern anchor rode permanently shackled on? Or, as I used to, store it away in a locker.... somewhere? Cheers, Bruce |
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Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Do you keep the stern anchor rode permanently shackled on? Or, as I used to, store it away in a locker.... somewhere? Cheers, Bruce Usually in a bucket in the cockpit locker. Which brings me to a point shackles. The traditional U shaped shackle with a screw in pin verses the flattened O shaped thingie with a screw barrel on one side. I use the latter - a big one. It's quick, simple, no pin to lose and can be done by hand alone. But YMMV? -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |