On Sep 15, 6:01 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?

Maybe during his driving lessons?



Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.


Donal's not going to get it. Ever.



Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?


Donal obviously believes a car's price is more important that it's
abilities. My buddy has a modded AWD 911 that cost more than a DB9. He
just bought an Evo X and will track the car and also use it for runs
to the yard. He agrees that the Evo is in the same class of handling
as the 911 turbo. The DB9 is a dinosaur by comparison. Come to think
of it he also owns a original Elise...another car that's more
rewarding to drive than a Db9. But how do you explain to a person like
Donal about handling and balance?



RB

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:25:04 -0700, Capt. Rob wrote:

On Sep 15, 6:01 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?

Here - and an extra 48mph on top:-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-h4pPYMSvkw

Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.


Donal's not going to get it. Ever.

Get what? You seem to be concentrating
on performance alone, because the Evo fails in
every other department. Unfortunately, all the
hard evidence shows that the DB9 craps all
over the Evo in the performance department as
well.



Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?


Donal obviously believes a car's price is more important that it's
abilities.

No, Bob. I believe that sometimes you get what you
pay for. If you want to buy a cheap car that rattles
a lot, then by all means get yourself an Evo.
But, don't go boasting about it, because nobody
is going to be impressed.



Regards


Donal
--

Get what? *You seem to be concentrating
on performance alone,


Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav
system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history
that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's
elitist credentials set on price alone.



Unfortunately, all the
hard evidence shows that the DB9 craps all
over the Evo in the performance department as
well.


Please show me any test showing the DB9 pulling 1.04 G on a skidpad.
While you're at it show us it's versatility and ability to handle
anything besides dry weather! It's fast in a straight line...just like
a any worked big block Chevy.



No, Bob. * I believe that sometimes you get what you
pay for.

And sometimes you don't. Seeing how I drive fast cars and own one and
you're taking lessons, it's clear you believe what you want and ignore
the experts.


*If you want to buy a cheap car that rattles
a lot, then by all means get yourself an Evo.


Hmmm. I own a less expensive Legacy GT Turbo. It has no rattles.



But, don't go boasting about it, *because nobody
is going to be impressed.


Right, only EVERY everyone else is raving about the car, calling it a
revolution. It's one of two cars in the world to have both active yaw
control and active center differential and the ONLY car to employ it
with S-AWD. I do admit that it's Casino parking rating is lower than a
DB9, but it's a enthusiast driver's joy. The fact that it's able to
outgun the DB9 in so many ways is testiment to out motivated the
engineers are these days. Clearly you need a car to build on something
you percieve as missing from your personality. That's rough since you
don't own a DB9 or any fast car. How do you survive with such
egotistical fragility? You must never go to Casinos!
Hey, I kid about the stuff I buy and it's "value" which is pretty
silly. But YOU actually believe it. That's a tough life to live and I
do feel sorry for you.


RB

Capt. Rob wrote:


Please show me any test showing the DB9 pulling 1.04 G on a skidpad.

Wonderful, at what 35, 40mph? What's it do at 140?

Cheers
Marty

Capt. Rob wrote:
Get what? You seem to be concentrating
on performance alone,


Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav
system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history
that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's

Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you,
Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from
the greater.

I thought you would have done a little research.

Cheers
Marty

On Sep 17, 12:59 am, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
Get what? You seem to be concentrating
on performance alone,

Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav
system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history
that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's

Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you,
Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from
the greater.

I thought you would have done a little research.

Cheers
Marty



BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay Marty, YOU need to do some research! Who campaigned
the DB9? Show us the DB9's race history vs. the Evo. Evo's are pro
raced daily and you might notice that an Evo just took a coveted prize
in one of the top rally races in the world. The DB9 is a luxury
cruising machine, Marty. It's not a hardcore sports car. It's funny
because the longer you and Donal fail to understand that, the dopier
you all sound.

Bottom line: Never buy anything Ford is involved with! The DB9 at 165K
doesn't have a single performance spec that is ahead of the pack. NOT
ONE. The Nissan GT-R I have a deposit on outdoes it in every single
respect that is key to high performance driving and at half the price.
The GT-R is also built better. The DB9 is a pretty, but expensive joke
on those who are more interested in how they appear to others. It's a
unique mix of high quality with little substance. The fact that an Evo
X bests in so many ways important to driving is humiliating enough.
Add a GT-R into the mix at just 75K and the DB9 seems like a Mini
Cooper by comparison.



RB

Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 17, 12:59 am, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
Get what? You seem to be concentrating
on performance alone,
Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav
system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history
that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's
Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you,
Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from
the greater.

I thought you would have done a little research.

Cheers
Marty



BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay Marty, YOU need to do some research! Who campaigned
the DB9? Show us the DB9's race history vs. the Evo. Evo's are pro
raced daily and you might notice that an Evo just took a coveted prize
in one of the top rally races in the world.



I do? If you bothered to look it up you'd be aware that there were more
than one team running DBR9, the AM factory took 1st and 4th in their
class, Larbre took 3rd and 11th in their DBR9s, BMS 6th, Modena 10th.

In all six AMs in the race, how many EVOs?

Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do
all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win?

Cheers
Marty

Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do
all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win?



Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read?

The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine,
suspension, tranny and sheet metal.

Here's a clip:
Last weekend Japanese Mitsubishi driver Fumio Nutahara gave the
new Lancer Evolution X its first win,dominating the Kuma Kogen
Rally,one of the rounds of the Japanese Rally Championship. This
victory is significant as the Lancer is still not yet fully developed
and it was competing against Mitsus arch rivals,the Subaru STis.




RB

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...
On Sep 17, 12:59 am, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
Get what? You seem to be concentrating
on performance alone,

Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav
system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history
that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's

Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you,
Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from
the greater.

I thought you would have done a little research.

Cheers
Marty



BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay Marty, YOU need to do some research! Who campaigned
the DB9? Show us the DB9's race history vs. the Evo. Evo's are pro
raced daily and you might notice that an Evo just took a coveted prize
in one of the top rally races in the world. The DB9 is a luxury
cruising machine, Marty. It's not a hardcore sports car. It's funny
because the longer you and Donal fail to understand that, the dopier
you all sound.

Bottom line: Never buy anything Ford is involved with! The DB9 at 165K
doesn't have a single performance spec that is ahead of the pack. NOT
ONE. The Nissan GT-R I have a deposit on outdoes it in every single
respect that is key to high performance driving and at half the price.
The GT-R is also built better. The DB9 is a pretty, but expensive joke
on those who are more interested in how they appear to others. It's a
unique mix of high quality with little substance. The fact that an Evo
X bests in so many ways important to driving is humiliating enough.
Add a GT-R into the mix at just 75K and the DB9 seems like a Mini
Cooper by comparison.



RB

EVOx is a cheap piece of junk. For a little over twice the money you could
have a 630 horsepower, 600 ft-lb of torque, true sports car that does 0-60
in 3.4 seconds, 0-100 in 7 seconds with a top speed of 200 (11.3 in quarter
mile.

"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
...
EVOx is a cheap piece of junk. For a little over twice the money you could
have a 630 horsepower, 600 ft-lb of torque, true sports car that does 0-60
in 3.4 seconds, 0-100 in 7 seconds with a top speed of 200 (11.3 in
quarter mile.


Go green... I have two friends who are about to take delivery. It's easier
to clean up the pollution at the factory than at the tailpipe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk

Some history...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6lm...eature=related

Faster than a 911...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTgMW...eature=related

0 to 60 in 3 seconds....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGeQ...eature=related

Here's another car powered by laptop batteries.... wipes out a Dodge Viper
500hp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD...eature=related
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