On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...


Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?

We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish,
but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM.
If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB.

Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.

We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious?

Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?



regards


Donal




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

On 15 Sep, 23:01, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?



We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish,
but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM.
If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB.

Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.



We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious?

Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?


Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is
so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring
glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to
put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from
people
who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really
wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?).

In Australia, I suspect that the poorer parts of the Aboriginal
population would be impressed by the Evo.

Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise
it.


regards


Donal
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On Sep 15, 5:40 pm, wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish,
but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM.
If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB.



How can you even compare the DB9 to the Evo X?

The Evo X has S-AWD and can be driven fast in snow, rain or off-road.
The RWD DB9 can't.
The Evo X has active yaw control making it one of the best balanced
sports sedans ever. The DB9 can't match the Evo's handling numbers for
grip or slaloms.
The Evo X has an active center differential which enables it to
further enhance it's stability.
The Evo X stops faster with superior braking design and a more
advanced ABS system.
The Evo X has a superior sound and navigation system with it's own
music server.
The Evo X is a popular track and rally car with many wins already. The
DB9 is not.
The Evo X in MR trim has the most sophisticated transmission available
on any car at any price. The DB9 tranny is dated.

With the DB9 you get superior speed in a straight line, but far far
far below most good sports cars. And a top speed few would ever be
able to use. I'm not likely to drive any car faster than 140 MPH in
NY. Great cars must have great handling. No amount of fit & finish is
going to win the hearts of real drivers.



RB

On Sep 15, 6:01 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?

Maybe during his driving lessons?



Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.


Donal's not going to get it. Ever.



Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?


Donal obviously believes a car's price is more important that it's
abilities. My buddy has a modded AWD 911 that cost more than a DB9. He
just bought an Evo X and will track the car and also use it for runs
to the yard. He agrees that the Evo is in the same class of handling
as the 911 turbo. The DB9 is a dinosaur by comparison. Come to think
of it he also owns a original Elise...another car that's more
rewarding to drive than a Db9. But how do you explain to a person like
Donal about handling and balance?



RB

On Sep 15, 7:00 pm, wrote:
On 15 Sep, 23:01, OzOne wrote:



On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?

We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish,
but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM.
If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB.

Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.

We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious?

Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?

Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is
so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring
glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to
put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from
people
who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really
wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?).



Wow, what a horrible place you must live in! I live in NY. Nobody is
impressed with cars here. You can drive just about anything most
people know that folks with real class don't buy Aston Martins. They
drive what suits a need, rather than any call for attention. Since
Donal also equates expensive cars with ambition, he's not likely to
understand that either. The fact that an Elise or Evo X are far more
rewarding to drive means nothing to him. To Donal the reward is his
belief that a car like the Aston will somehow make his star shine
brighter in the eyes of others. In fact only fellow low-lifes like
himself will be "impressed" with an expensive car.

The Evo X is a specialty car. Donal should read up on what that means.
While the DB9 creates exclusivity with price, the Evo X does it with
real world performance and a purpose built design goal. In this regard
it exceeds the poor DB9 in every way and people who know driving and
cars will always give a nod of approval to the Evo X. The cost or
possible income of the owner is just not relevant, unless you have no
class at all. So far the two Evo X owners I know are pretty well off.
Both own cars in the DB9's price range, but they still wanted the
technological marvel known as the Evo X. I seriously doubt they're as
deeply insecure as Donal and feel like lesser men when driving the Evo
around turns at speeds only a few cars in the world could match. And
the poor DB9 is among those that fall short.


RB

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

On Sep 15, 7:00 pm, wrote:
On 15 Sep, 23:01, OzOne wrote:



On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal
doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the
price...

Good Lord!
I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that
it was that cheap.

Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do
you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9?

Where can you do even 165MPH?

We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish,
but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM.
If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB.

Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston.
Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled.

We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious?

Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park
it?

Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is
so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring
glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to
put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from
people
who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really
wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?).



Wow, what a horrible place you must live in! I live in NY. Nobody is
impressed with cars here. You can drive just about anything most
people know that folks with real class don't buy Aston Martins. They
drive what suits a need, rather than any call for attention. Since
Donal also equates expensive cars with ambition, he's not likely to
understand that either. The fact that an Elise or Evo X are far more
rewarding to drive means nothing to him. To Donal the reward is his
belief that a car like the Aston will somehow make his star shine
brighter in the eyes of others. In fact only fellow low-lifes like
himself will be "impressed" with an expensive car.

The Evo X is a specialty car. Donal should read up on what that means.
While the DB9 creates exclusivity with price, the Evo X does it with
real world performance and a purpose built design goal. In this regard
it exceeds the poor DB9 in every way and people who know driving and
cars will always give a nod of approval to the Evo X. The cost or
possible income of the owner is just not relevant, unless you have no
class at all. So far the two Evo X owners I know are pretty well off.
Both own cars in the DB9's price range, but they still wanted the
technological marvel known as the Evo X. I seriously doubt they're as
deeply insecure as Donal and feel like lesser men when driving the Evo
around turns at speeds only a few cars in the world could match. And
the poor DB9 is among those that fall short.


RB

What ever became of your boat? You used to talk about it a lot more.

wrote:

Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise
it.

Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of
a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52
Bentley Mk VI.

Cheers
Marty

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote:

wrote:

Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise
it.

Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of
a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52
Bentley Mk VI.

Cheers
Marty

Of course he understands the "mystique"..as Donal says it's about
going fast in a straight line, having people think you are 'someone'
because you drive an 'Aston' and getting good parking spots at the
casino.

Like Bob, I like to actually enjoy driving not steering.
I put the extra money into other toys and don't need the respect of
those who admire my cars ability to turn a head....If I wanted that
I'd paint it pink!




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is
so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring
glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to
put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from
people
who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really
wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?).

Indeed it does ...."This guy likes to drive!"

In Australia, I suspect that the poorer parts of the Aboriginal
population would be impressed by the Evo.

I suspect they wouldn't actually know what it was as would be the
case with the vast majority in any country.

Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise
it.

Hogwash.....It stands out n an automotive crowd because of its beauty!



regards


Donal




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

On Sep 15, 10:26 pm, Marty wrote:
wrote:

Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise
it.

Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of
a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52
Bentley Mk VI.

Cheers
Marty




I can understand wanting to drive those cars, but you and Donal
clearly have no idea why Ozzy and I want to OWN the Evo X. I owned a
restored MG-TD and TF, so I appreciate cars of varied character. But
the comparisons and comments from Donal and yourself are childish in
the extreme.



RB