On 10 Sep, 05:09, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Quick review for Donal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmIbJA3RW_Y

R.


Listen to the sound of a real car:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmHqjCa-GAk

Compare and contrast with an Evo!!


Are you really going to buy the Evo?

BTW I had a test drive in a DB9 yesterday. It was
lovely. I stroked the rear, and it felt beautiful.

What number plate do you think that I should
have? BO55 DON seems a bit too expensive.
What do you think about "V12 DON"?

D10NAL is also available, but it doesn't seen quite right.


Regards


Donal
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On Sep 10, 7:14 pm, wrote:
On 10 Sep, 05:09, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Quick review for Donal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmIbJA3RW_Y

R.

Listen to the sound of a real car:-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmHqjCa-GAk

Compare and contrast with an Evo!!

Are you really going to buy the Evo?

BTW I had a test drive in a DB9 yesterday. It was
lovely. I stroked the rear, and it felt beautiful.

What number plate do you think that I should
have? BO55 DON seems a bit too expensive.
What do you think about "V12 DON"?

D10NAL is also available, but it doesn't seen quite right.

Regards

Donal
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Now you're being silly and I don't think you're dumb enough to buy a
DB9, but I've over-estimated you before.

Yep, I'm buying a Evo X GSR with custom leather, Nav, Rockford Fosgate
and all the toys. ICS is doing my mods after I run 2K on her. Then
she'll be at 372 WHP.
Even in stock trim the Evo out-handles the AM, but you have some
mythical belief in the DB9, which is just what the ad departments
intended. It's actually a wonderful car, but a balls-out driver's car
it is not. Cars that are....the Lotus Exige, Viper, 911 AWD Turbo, BMW
M3, previous generation STI, current Evo X, Nissan GT-R, Audi R8 and
several others....all are there regardless of price. They put driving
dynamics first and leather and comfort last. The AM is big and
powerful, but it lacks many of the wonderful technologies that have
driven the art of automotive engineering to new heights. The AM can't
compete, so it doesn't even try. It exists as a throwback, really not
much different than a Mazda Miata in driving dynamics.

So, driving down my twisty road, into a deep negative bank, the Evo X
will drift a bit, then the active yaw control system will seamlessly
divert power. Coming out of the turn all four wheels will blast the
Evo into an evenly weighted stance. As you learn to trust the AYC and
the amazing grip you can make such maneuvers faster still. In the DB9
you'd have less grip. With only RWD, the rear end would start to
slide. Stay calm and ease off on the power and you MIGHT stay on the
road, but there's only so much give in a simple suspension. Coming out
of the turn you weight for the chassis to recompose before laying down
heavy power. The DB9's torque advantage is high and she takes off. But
the Evo is already five turns ahead. Now it starts to drizzle
slightly. The Evo, with it's S-AWD system is barely effected. The AM
is now crippled. You can't lay down any serious power without swinging
out the rear in any turn.

Buh bye, Aston Martin. Enjoy those engine sounds and your Casino
parking spot.




RB

And just where are you going to drive that pig? A demolition derby? Or
will you roar around your local windy roads, residential neighborhoods, and
school zones, endangering the lives of your neighbors?

What a putz.


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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On Sep 10, 7:14 pm, wrote:
On 10 Sep, 05:09, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Quick review for Donal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmIbJA3RW_Y

R.

Listen to the sound of a real
car:-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmHqjCa-GAk

Compare and contrast with an Evo!!

Are you really going to buy the Evo?

BTW I had a test drive in a DB9 yesterday. It was
lovely. I stroked the rear, and it felt beautiful.

What number plate do you think that I should
have? BO55 DON seems a bit too expensive.
What do you think about "V12 DON"?

D10NAL is also available, but it doesn't seen quite right.

Regards

Donal
--




Now you're being silly and I don't think you're dumb enough to buy a
DB9, but I've over-estimated you before.

Yep, I'm buying a Evo X GSR with custom leather, Nav, Rockford Fosgate
and all the toys. ICS is doing my mods after I run 2K on her. Then
she'll be at 372 WHP.
Even in stock trim the Evo out-handles the AM, but you have some
mythical belief in the DB9, which is just what the ad departments
intended. It's actually a wonderful car, but a balls-out driver's car
it is not. Cars that are....the Lotus Exige, Viper, 911 AWD Turbo, BMW
M3, previous generation STI, current Evo X, Nissan GT-R, Audi R8 and
several others....all are there regardless of price. They put driving
dynamics first and leather and comfort last. The AM is big and
powerful, but it lacks many of the wonderful technologies that have
driven the art of automotive engineering to new heights. The AM can't
compete, so it doesn't even try. It exists as a throwback, really not
much different than a Mazda Miata in driving dynamics.

So, driving down my twisty road, into a deep negative bank, the Evo X
will drift a bit, then the active yaw control system will seamlessly
divert power. Coming out of the turn all four wheels will blast the
Evo into an evenly weighted stance. As you learn to trust the AYC and
the amazing grip you can make such maneuvers faster still. In the DB9
you'd have less grip. With only RWD, the rear end would start to
slide. Stay calm and ease off on the power and you MIGHT stay on the
road, but there's only so much give in a simple suspension. Coming out
of the turn you weight for the chassis to recompose before laying down
heavy power. The DB9's torque advantage is high and she takes off. But
the Evo is already five turns ahead. Now it starts to drizzle
slightly. The Evo, with it's S-AWD system is barely effected. The AM
is now crippled. You can't lay down any serious power without swinging
out the rear in any turn.

Buh bye, Aston Martin. Enjoy those engine sounds and your Casino
parking spot.




RB

On Sep 11, 4:48 am, jlrogers±³© wrote:
And just where are you going to drive that pig? A demolition derby? Or
will you roar around your local windy roads, residential neighborhoods, and
school zones, endangering the lives of your neighbors?






Nope. I live upstate and quite close are a series of roads that are
usually empty and with no homes for miles. That said a good handling
car is fun to drive well within legal limits as well. Only a pinhead
like yourself automatically assumes a sports car equals 3 digit speeds
on a back-road. There are also various track days where a driver can
try legal 1/4 runs and such.
Grow up.



RB

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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On Sep 11, 4:48 am, jlrogers±³© wrote:
And just where are you going to drive that pig? A demolition derby? Or
will you roar around your local windy roads, residential neighborhoods,
and
school zones, endangering the lives of your neighbors?






Nope. I live upstate and quite close are a series of roads that are
usually empty and with no homes for miles. That said a good handling
car is fun to drive well within legal limits as well. Only a pinhead
like yourself automatically assumes a sports car equals 3 digit speeds
on a back-road. There are also various track days where a driver can
try legal 1/4 runs and such.
Grow up.


Grow up? I'm not the one wasting my resources to feed my ego, though I admit
to having spent a great deal of money on sports cars when I was young and
immature. Eat, drink, and be merry... Who knows for whom the bell tolls...

Grow up? I'm not the one wasting my resources to feed my ego, though I admit
to having spent a great deal of money on sports cars when I was young and
immature. Eat, drink, and be merry... Who knows for whom the bell tolls...



If said resources effected our quality of life now or later I wouldn't
get the car. We can afford the Evo X as easily as our boat. We can
easily handle the GT-R. I'll be honest and admit that it would be a
waste to spend 150K on a car though because that WOULD effect us
financially.


RB

wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:48:08 -0500, jlrogers±³©
wrote:


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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On Sep 11, 4:48 am, jlrogers±³© wrote:
And just where are you going to drive that pig? A demolition derby? Or
will you roar around your local windy roads, residential neighborhoods,
and
school zones, endangering the lives of your neighbors?






Nope. I live upstate and quite close are a series of roads that are
usually empty and with no homes for miles. That said a good handling
car is fun to drive well within legal limits as well. Only a pinhead
like yourself automatically assumes a sports car equals 3 digit speeds
on a back-road. There are also various track days where a driver can
try legal 1/4 runs and such.
Grow up.


Grow up? I'm not the one wasting my resources to feed my ego, though I
admit
to having spent a great deal of money on sports cars when I was young and
immature. Eat, drink, and be merry... Who knows for whom the bell
tolls...

I don't know for whom the bell tolls, but there would seem to be some
bats in Bobsprit's belfry.



I was going to comment that's it's one if by land and two if by sea, but the
latter would never happen.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On 11 Sep, 02:20, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

So, driving down my twisty road, into a deep negative bank, the Evo X
will drift a bit, then the active yaw control system will seamlessly
divert power. Coming out of the turn all four wheels will blast the
Evo into an evenly weighted stance. As you learn to trust the AYC and
the amazing grip you can make such maneuvers faster still. In the DB9
you'd have less grip. With only RWD, the rear end would start to
slide. Stay calm and ease off on the power and you MIGHT stay on the
road, but there's only so much give in a simple suspension. Coming out
of the turn you weight for the chassis to recompose before laying down
heavy power. The DB9's torque advantage is high and she takes off. But
the Evo is already five turns ahead.

Then you arrive at the marina in your Evo, and people are not
surprised when they see you step onto a "vintage" Pearson 30.


Good write-up, Bob, but no banana!

BTW, did you see Jeremy Clarkson's review of the Kia?

Regards

Donal
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Then you arrive at the marina in your Evo, and people are not
surprised when they see you step onto a "vintage" Pearson 30.


Not likely, Donal. Evo X's are exceedingly rare. To date I've seen
only one on the road. Specialty cars draw more attention, though
mostly from driving enthusiasts and police. This is NY. No one cares
much about expensive cars because they're everywhere. Both here and in
LA all you see are Porsches, BMWs and just about every 6 figure car on
the market. Big whoop. Exclusivity and real world performance are what
it's all about. If you need to have people in awe of your wallet, buy
a DB9. That's what the cars says. But people in the know what a
drivers car is.
You don't.

Oh....and I'm the guy with the sweet little 1st series and the Kevlar
sails. Where's your boat these days? Hmmmmm? Do you plan to impress us
all with sailing lessons aboard a Swan or Baltic?



RB

Capt. Rob wrote:
Then you arrive at the marina in your Evo, and people are not
surprised when they see you step onto a "vintage" Pearson 30.


Not likely, Donal. Evo X's are exceedingly rare. To date I've seen
only one on the road. Specialty cars draw more attention, though
mostly from driving enthusiasts and police. This is NY. No one cares
much about expensive cars because they're everywhere. Both here and in
LA all you see are Porsches, BMWs and just about every 6 figure car on
the market. Big whoop. Exclusivity and real world performance are what
it's all about. If you need to have people in awe of your wallet, buy
a DB9. That's what the cars says. But people in the know what a
drivers car is.
You don't.

Hey Bob, do you know what the problem with numbers from the skid pan is?

Do you know why comparing drag coefficients is often foolish?

Now here's a question that should connect the first two; do you know
what the drag coefficient is for an F1 car in Monaco configuration?

Do you think that you could drive your EVO and beat Shu in a Renault 5
at Monaco?

Cheers
Marty