DSK wrote:


This is why Navvie was so sure that *no* dinghy could be sailed in 30+
knot winds.

Unmanageable does not mean can't be sailed. Look it up.

Cheers

DSK wrote:
This is why Navvie was so sure that *no* dinghy could be sailed in 30+
knot winds.


Navigator wrote:
Unmanageable does not mean can't be sailed. Look it up.

Look it up where?

Are you suggesting that a boat which is "unmanageable" is still being
properly & safely sailed?

But other than that, you're right. I apologize, the two terms should be
kept seperate.

DSK

"Walt" wrote in message
...

Maybe I'm somewhat lacking in immagination, but I don't see how a
homebrew reefing system could cause the boom to break. If the odd
sailplan generates odd forces, my hunch is that they'd manifest
themselves as a boat that's difficult to control long before being large
enough to break things, although the wrong sail plan could cause enough
lee helm to over-stress the rudder.


My experience with small boats is that most damage is caused by being out of
control, not simply from overstressing gear. Capsizing, and righting a boat,
is extremely hard on the gear, as is dipping a tightly vanged boom. etc.

"Wally" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:

After all this, I'm beginning to suspect that the original post was a
troll anyway.

The use of mph for wind speeds does seem a tad Jimspritish...


No, Ed already told us that the Weather Channel is what he relies on for
forecasts.

DSK wrote:

After all this, I'm beginning to suspect that the original post was a
troll anyway.

The use of mph for wind speeds does seem a tad Jimspritish...


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Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

"perfectly"?? Sorry, nobody including Paul Elvstrom and Buddy Melges
sails perfectly. But I'm glad you're having a lot of fun, that's what it
should be like.

Well, true. But we didn't capsize.

?? Never seen reef points on a Hunter 146 (or any other boat that size).

Yeah, our main sail has them, one set anyway. So did our apollo when we had
that one, and it was 16 ft.

Probably not. Unless you've mistreated it somehow, the rigging on that
boat should not break in the strongest winds you can keep it right-side up.

I hope you're right. But the boat doesn't come with hiking straps, and I put
them in. Still, you're probably right. 10 mph more and we wouldn't have kept it
upright on tacks and yet I don't think the rigging would have broke.

Well, the shrouds and forestay should hold (i.e. the mast shouldn't come
down) but everything else that can shake loose may well shake loose:
shackles, cleats, pintles, etc.

That's exactly what I meant. I began to worry a little about the cam cleats for
the jib.

Are you serious?

Cheers


Maybe we were pushing ourselves to our limits. And, yes, I use mph. I never got
the feeling for knots. I only convert to knots when I look up the wind force on
the scale in my sailing book. I and my wife are totally self-taught as a
sailors, and we're proud of that fact.

EdGordonRN wrote:

And, yes, I use mph. I
never got the feeling for knots.

How did you get a feeling for wind speed in mph?


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Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

DSK wrote:
DSK wrote:

This is why Navvie was so sure that *no* dinghy could be sailed in
30+ knot winds.



Navigator wrote:

Unmanageable does not mean can't be sailed. Look it up.


Look it up where?

OED:

Incapable of being properly or conveniently handled or manipulated.

1658 PHILLIPS, Immanity,..such a hugenesse as renders a thing
unmanageable. 1779 Phil. Trans. LXIX. 422 It required an index of an
unmanageable length. 1805 in Nicolas Disp. Nelson (1846) VII. 166 So
that the Ship was entirely unmanageable.

Note the last example...


But other than that, you're right. I apologize, the two terms should be
kept seperate.


A maybe subtle difference but important I feel.

Cheers