EdGordonRN wrote:

Teh you are still beginner sailors....it is a challenge to sail in light
air...it is sometimes harder to sail in light air....get a spinnaker and
hone your skills in those less than 9 days....


Forget that. Although a spinnaker might be interesting. What kind of point of
sail can you get with a spinnaker--isn't it only for running?

Ed, perhaps you should have taken a lesson or two, look up asymmetric spinnakers
and see what you can find about sailing with one, definitely not for running!

Cheers
Marty

Read again, Marty.

Not on the LIS. I find checking several web weather sites are more accurate
than NOAA alone.

Get your crayons out!
What a dope!

RB

If you're going to the web and not getting the marine forecast, you're still
a
beginner.

Why? Weather.com's beach report is perfect. I've gotton the marine report for
our area, and it doesn't given any more information. You sound like you need to
look "mariner" at all times. You wear one of those captain hats when you sail,
don't you?

If Edgar wants to use MPH what difference does it make? None.

RB

Exactly. Because the fact is, my wife and I sail all the time. We sailed today.
We sailed, I believe a total of six miles, according to the road map I use as a
chart. 3 miles was beating against approximately 11 mile an hour winds, and of
course 3 miles on a run on the way back. What was cool, this time, is that we
went into deeper waters and got some good splashes over the bow. We even planed
a few times in some gusts, and on the way back we could feel the waves pushing
us like our boat was body surfing. It was a good day. And imagine: I never
consulted NOAA or a nautical chart even once. And we both refuse to use terms
like "jibe-ho" or "helms-a-lee."

Yes - the "lubbers" forecast (I use Wunderground) is handy for many aspects
of the weather. But for telling the wind strength and direction, as well as
wave heights, the marine forecast is needed. In addition, the marine
forecast
will give wind and water predictions for both protected and unprotected
waters, as
well as any marine advisories. I would think that anyone venturing out,
especially in a small boat, would be interested in these things.

Nonsense. Weather.com gives wind direction, speed, and wave height. It also
gives temp, humidity, etc, and it forcasts each hour over a 12 hour stretch. We
wouldn't be sailing during small craft advisories, so who cares about them. I
can see if one has an off-shore boat that they'd want a marine radio, but we
get by and we never use the term "lubber." Nor do we have a parrot that sits on
our shoulder, nor do we hunt large white whales.

Ed, perhaps you should have taken a lesson or two, look up asymmetric
spinnakers
and see what you can find about sailing with one, definitely not for running!

Why take a lesson when I already know how to sail, and I sail all the time? Why
take a lesson when I can read what I want to know in a book? As for spinnakers,
we were running today and talked about it, and there's no real reason for it on
our boat. Too much hassle and modification necessary. And for any other point
of sail, the last thing we need is more sail area. Consider that the boat we
sail is not a racing dinghy. It's well designed, very strong and fast, but it's
not a racer.

Pretty easy really. 1 nm= about 1.1 mile, so speed in mph = 1.1 speed in
knots.

1.15 and a bunch of other decimal places, but who cares? When we sail, we sail
for about two hours. 25 minutes to the dock, about 30 minutes to set up, 2
hours sailing, 30 minutes to take down and 25 minutes home. We flake the sail,
and wash the boat the next day. We don't get burned out and we don't get
frustrated. And we don't pretend to be sailors. We are sailors. Bottom line.

Sorry Ed, I don't pride myself in ignorance. It seems to be a virtue for you.



"EdGordonRN" wrote in message
...
If you're going to the web and not getting the marine forecast, you're still
a
beginner.

Why? Weather.com's beach report is perfect. I've gotton the marine report for
our area, and it doesn't given any more information. You sound like you need
to
look "mariner" at all times. You wear one of those captain hats when you sail,
don't you?

Edsprit wrote:
Pretty easy really. 1 nm= about 1.1 mile, so speed in mph = 1.1
speed in knots.

1.15 and a bunch of other decimal places, but who cares? When we
sail, we sail for about two hours. 25 minutes to the dock, about 30
minutes to set up, 2 hours sailing, 30 minutes to take down and 25
minutes home. We flake the sail, and wash the boat the next day. We
don't get burned out and we don't get frustrated.

What does thinking in nautical miles have to do with getting burned out or
frustrated?


--
Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

What does thinking in nautical miles have to do with getting burned out or
frustrated?

Nothing. The bottom line is: we sail. We don't need "sailorly" things unless
they aid what we do.