6 miles total - (3 out + 3 in) = 0


Since he's using a road map, instead of a chart, we can safely call the
distance an aprox. rather than an absolute.

RB

Bobsprit wrote:
How far did he travel from his mooring before he trimmed for the
beat?

We don't know, nor do we know the amount of weather helm he
experienced, nor do we know how many times he was hit by a gust and
fell off for a moment. Kinda changes things.

6 miles total - (3 out + 3 in) = 0

How much weather helm is he likely to get when beating in an 11mph wind?


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How much weather helm is he likely to get when beating in an 11mph wind?

I said "gusts" could also force him to fall off and it can easily happen when
he's not focusing or just messing with the course.
Wally, you're just wrong to suggest that you can define his course from data
given.

RB

Edgar's winning this one, folks. He's sailing and enjoying himself. He and
his wife have a system that works and he could care less about any traditional
elements because he's having fun and learning in the process.

Thanks, Bob. But there is one thing that makes us really traditional: we have
no motor. It limits the harbors and marinas we can use, but we never want to
put a motor on our boat.

Wally wrote:
So, if the wind drops below 9mph, you'll be paddling? Becalmed? Eaten by
seagulls?

I think he's counting on being swept up in the Rapture.

DSK

Bobsprit wrote:

I've already stated that my boat is on the hard,

What??!!!!! Bwahahahaha! Like Scotty Potti???
Oh my!

Are you suffering from memory failure? I said this ages ago. I'm crewing on
the Sonata to get on the water and learn with an experienced skipper. Been
sailing twice a week since March. No race last Sunday, so we went for a
cruise; racing this evening and this Sat/Sun.


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I think you are missing something. If you are beating against a
southerly wind, then you're heading either SE or SW. If you then turn
180, you'll be on a broad reach heading either NE or NW.

True.

But the plain fact is that there are a lot of things
on boats that have no counterpart in everyday life. If you want to talk
about them, then you need to know the right word(s).

If my wife turned to me in the boat and said "harden up" I'm afraid my only
reply would have to be: "Right here? Right now?" So, why don't you tell me what
it means? I have a feeling it has something to do with sheeting in the main or
jib to keep them from luffing, but I honestly don't know, and as you can see,
it means so much to me.

EdGordonRN wrote:

Thanks, Bob. But there is one thing that makes us really traditional:
we have no motor. It limits the harbors and marinas we can use, but
we never want to put a motor on our boat.

So, if the wind drops below 9mph, you'll be paddling? Becalmed? Eaten by
seagulls?


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Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Good for you! You're not a fraud. Do what works for you and sail safe. THAT'S
sailing!

RB

So, Bob, what kind of boat do you sail?

Bobsprit wrote:
How much weather helm is he likely to get when beating in an 11mph
wind?

I said "gusts" could also force him to fall off and it can easily
happen when he's not focusing or just messing with the course.
Wally, you're just wrong to suggest that you can define his course
from data given.

He seemed to think it was okay - 6 miles total, a 3 mile beat outward, and
"of course" a 3 mile run home. He's clearly done 6-3=3. He didn't say it was
gusty, he didn't say he faffed about at the start before getting trimmed.
Why are you adding in factors that he hasn't mentioned?

How much weather helm would he have got if he was on a beat for 3 miles and
then got home on a 3 mile run?


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Wally
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www.wally.myby.co.uk