The Captains Nemesis wrote:


Hmmm fact is that heavy boats actually do better in light air.

Agreed, with the added qualifier that heavy boats *can* do well in light air, but
not always.


Once you get them moving their momentum will carry them thru dead
patches generating aparent.
Unfortunalely the skill to do this is not available to some.

And it's enough to make your teeth sweat, gaining practice in that skill!

That's why I alway wish everyone

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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| Oh sure I do.... but try and find more than 6 of them in North America
|
| You own a failed design, just like Loco. There are very few Expresses
around as
| well.

Bwahahahahahahahaaa..... lets do an archieve search shall we?
Bob you're acting like a spoiled kid..... ;-)

CM

I haven't agreed with anything. You just seem to think PHRF is an absolute speed rating.
However, your local race committee rates their C&C 32's particularly slow - slower than
most other boats over 30 feet. Slower than every Benneteau over 28.5 feet. Slower than
most of the C&C 27's. Slower than a Cat-30 with the tall rig, and all larger Catalina's.
Slower than every Hunter over 30 feet. Slower than all the Nonsuch's. Slower than the
Pearson's and Rangers over 30 feet. Slower than Sabres down to 30 feet. Slower than
almost every Tartan down to 30 feet. And its hardly worth mentioning that you're slower
than every J, X, Mumm, Soverel, Express, etc.

So what boat is slower than a C&C 32? A number of boats 30 feet and less will be a few
seconds slower. And there are a few isolated boats that got special handicaps because of
a very limited sail inventory, etc.

But it looks like the C&C 32 is virtually the slowest boat over 30 feet in Long Island
Sound.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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No, you're the person trying to prove your boat speed by using PHRF ratings. I
just point

Oh, so then you agree with me. Thanks.

RB

Only as a racer, dummy. We're not talking racing. Can you ever switch gears?
As a cruiser, the J30 is a good light air boat.

ROIFLMAO.... So a loaded down J30 ready for a week long cruise is somehow a
better performer than a race ready J30 in the same air. You are truly a dimwit
putz who knows nothing about boats.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

rated 159-166 here, Jeff.
Sorry.
http://www.pipeline.com/~wayneb/phrflis.htm#j

Can't you read your own page of proof. Your like a bad lawyer. I only see
165.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

But it looks like the C&C 32 is virtually the slowest boat over 30 feet in
Long Island Sound.

But he said he did 11kts! Aparently the matrix is not LIS.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

You own a failed design, just like Loco. There are very few Expresses around
as
well.

Duh, like every other consumer item as quality and price go up you do see
less of the item in question.
BTW I believe the way to spell it would be Express's.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Duh, like every other consumer item as quality and price go up you do see
less of the item in question.

That's odd. At my club there are Pacific Seacraft, C&C, Pearson, Valiant,
Island Packet, J-Boat, Sweden Yachts, X Yachts, Fisher, Vindo, Bristol,
Hughes......But NO Express 30 or 35!
Must be TOO high quality to mix with the above!

Bwahahahahahahaha!

RB

ROIFLMAO.... So a loaded down J30 ready for a week long cruise is somehow a
better performer than a race ready J30 in the same air.


That's a pretty dumb post, Loco. The raced J30 would have 4 more people on it
weighing 600-800 lbs combined. Do you load up 800 lbs of water and hot dogs for
a week long trip? make it a 1000 lbs. Does your boat become a slug?
Oh, okay!

RB

That's a pretty dumb post, Loco. The raced J30 would have 4 more people on
it
weighing 600-800 lbs combined. Do you load up 800 lbs of water and hot dogs for
a week long trip? make it a 1000 lbs. Does your boat become a slug?
Oh, okay!

Duh nice try but a week long cruise would have 30gal of water, food, clothing,
a portable TV, can goods, beer, soda, etc. etc. etc.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport