On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:49:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:41:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

What the heck would you know about driving a *real* boat through a
ferocious inlet? Really.

Maybe he took a 16' boat out of Deale
That can be exciting on a windy day.

That's funny, but it's also true!
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:41:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:10:34 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

This is really funny stuff...thanks, Luddite. And remember, driving
that RC boat in a swimming pool is just like driving a real boat through
a ferocious inlet. I mean, what's the difference?

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What the heck would you know about driving a *real* boat through a
ferocious inlet? Really.

With regard to Dick's suggestion about taking a flying lesson, I
highly recommend it. Introductory lessons are usually priced at
reasonable rates and it will give you a taste of the real deal. You'll
find it quite interesting. My first lesson was in a Piper J3 tail
dragger with no doors or windows and controlled with a "stick".
It was about as basic as you can get short of an ultra light.

I'd like to find someone who would take me and a couple grandkids up in one of those
piper style airplanes.
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:27:01 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:49:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:41:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

What the heck would you know about driving a *real* boat through a
ferocious inlet? Really.

Maybe he took a 16' boat out of Deale
That can be exciting on a windy day.

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I think the biggest boat that harry has actually owned was the 24 ft
Parker. Not a bad boat for the Chesapeake on a moderately calm day
but not my choice for going offshore any distance. Apparently the
fuel burn on the 24 was too much for him as I recall.

I did a lot of bay fishing in my 21'er. Always had folks willing to be a 'boat ho'
for the day, so it must not have been too bad. We never went out if the small craft
warnings were posted.
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:16:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/18/15 1:34 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:27:01 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:49:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:41:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

What the heck would you know about driving a *real* boat through a
ferocious inlet? Really.

Maybe he took a 16' boat out of Deale
That can be exciting on a windy day.

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I think the biggest boat that harry has actually owned was the 24 ft
Parker. Not a bad boat for the Chesapeake on a moderately calm day
but not my choice for going offshore any distance. Apparently the
fuel burn on the 24 was too much for him as I recall.

He had a buck and a half Yamaha as I recall. My neighbor has a new one
and he says it is a lot better on gas than the 115 4s Merc.
I am not sure if that was the same motor Harry had tho.

As for the boat, a 24 should be fine in the bay. I used to fish on a
22.2 Aquasport all the time and we ran from Scheibels down to a ledge
20 miles south of Tangier most of the time. It wasn't a bad ride.

The little 16' had, not so much ;-)



I had a 225 Yammy on a 25' Parker that weighed 3-1/2 tons and was
suitable for reasonable offshore work. Later had a 150 Yammy on a 21'
deep vee that was also suitable for reasonable offshore work. When we
lived in Florida and I had an 18' center console boat, we'd often go 20
miles offshore to fish some wrecks.

There are plenty of guys who fish the Bay here in 16' boats. Perhaps you
simply didn't have the balls or back for it.

Gosh, and here just a while back you were telling me my 18'er was way too small for
the bay.

Gosh, Harry. You sure do change stories a lot.
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:12:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/15 11:49 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:41:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

What the heck would you know about driving a *real* boat through a
ferocious inlet? Really.

Maybe he took a 16' boat out of Deale
That can be exciting on a windy day.


Sorry, Gregster, never had a 16 footer up here. Smallest was a
19-footer. No ferocious inlets up here, either. Why are you commenting
about inlets, when your boating is done on a flat-calm swamp in a beat
up old pontoon boat that looks like a prop from Duck Dynasty?

I could be wrong, but it seems like *you* were the one who brought up the 'ferocious
inlet' activity, no?
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:44:29 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:22:57 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

This is a common debate between RC pilots and those who hold a pilot's
license. Like I said before I don't knock those to enjoy the RC thing.
It's fun for many but it's a totally different experience.
Sure, there are similarities in the respect that both have wings
and go up in the air. But that's about it.

I did all of my flight instruction in a Cessna 152. After I soloed I
flew the 152 and a 150 quite a bit. I did the cross country phase and
final check flight for my ticket in a Cessna 172. All the Cessna's were
high winged aircraft.

After a while I wanted to try something different, so I arranged for a
checkout flight in a Piper Warrior which is more powerful and low
winged. Felt like I was flying a Boeing 747 by comparison.

That all said, I am glad I did it but I also realized I am not a
"natural" pilot who enjoys the stresses of flying. I like boating much
more.

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I agree with all that, and most importantly, boats do not fall from
the sky when you screw up. :-)

Don't these new boats have the S.A.F.E. technology? I'll bet Harry's does, so he can
navigate ferocious inlets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZpFSE2pUI0

I've never used my SAFE switch. Never had enough time to get to it.

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On 2/18/15 9:01 AM, Abit Loco wrote:

Gosh, and here just a while back you were telling me my 18'er was way too small for
the bay.

Gosh, Harry. You sure do change stories a lot.


When was that, John? During one of your anesthesia induced surgeries?

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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:52:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/18/15 7:49 AM, Abit Loco wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:10:41 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:16:06 -0500, Abit Loco
wrote:

Since I've never flown a real airplane, I can't argue your 'turns and maneuvers'
statement. I know that if I bank my airplane using the ailerons and don't give it
some up elevator, it will head for the dirt. Perhaps you could tell us what the big
differences are.

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In a real plane you initiate a turn by briefly banking the plane with
the ailerons and giving it a momentary touch of rudder in the desired
direction. The plane will stay banked and continue to turn until you
reverse the process. And yes, you do need to pull back on the stick or
yoke a bit to maintain altitude. Does a model behave the same way?

More or less. I use my rudder very little, unless there's a side wind. But a little
up elevator is a necessity to maintain the same altitude.


Are you going to put up another set of 30-40 posts today about your toy
model airplanes? How about mixing in some golf, RV, hillbilly music,
steel ammo posts, just for, oh, variety? And perhaps a few about your
surgeries, past, present, and future...

Is the Bozo's Bin needing another entry? Would you prefer your brand of anti-this and
that posting.

Eriksson had some good advice for you - if you don't like the posts, don't read them.

Remember?
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:10:50 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/18/15 8:08 AM, Abit Loco wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:12:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


I notice you skipped over my response to your 'real airplane doesn't climb like that'
comment. Have you seen RC airplanes that can climb like an F/A-18?



Hehehehehehe...

And the bleat goes on.

He will probably pull your game, telling me I'm not 'entitled' to an answer.
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:25:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/18/15 8:09 AM, Abit Loco wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:46:53 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:34:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Don't need to. Not interested in getting a 'real' pilot's license. I have a hard
enough time with RC planes - as do a lot of 'real' pilots, and I'm not talking piper
cub guys.



This just gets funnier and funnier.

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Why the heck are you in this discussion?

Accumulating points with Eriksson, why else?



Oh, please. Richard and I disagree on a lot of subjects, and never will
agree on most of them. I'm giggling at you and your comments about toy
airplanes, your obsession with them, and your claims that flying toy
airplanes and flying real airplanes require similar skills.

Perhaps you see yourself as a *real* pilot. Some might see you as a
disintegrating old fart with nothing real to do, too much time on your
hands, and an endless list of hobbies. I'm not saying *I* see you that
way, but some might, eh?

Touched a nerve, eh?
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