On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:09:31 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:13:06 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/18/2015 4:05 PM, Stick Left-Steer Left wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:37:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:07:12 -0500, wrote:

All the work needs to be done by a licensed mechanic and parts make
boat parts look like peanuts.

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Every single part has to be certified and traceable back to its place
and date of manufacture.

You can't buy 'em out behind the shed from someone's trunk at a 'plane show' in
Virginia?

Well, ****. Guess I'll have to do without.


There are a lot of very airworthy and proven "experimental" aircraft out
there. Are they held to the same standard as registered aircraft? There
is a huge rc club down by our practice track. I have seen everything
from gas and electric rc planes to manned single seat eggbeaters and
several kinds of ultra light paragliders, etc take off and fly around there.

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I'm not an expert on the regulations but I do know that experimental
aircraft are not held to the same standards. Whether they are truly
airworthy or not could be debated. I believe that John Denver died
flying an experimental aircraft, and a former neighbor of mine almost
killed himself crashing an ultra light last year. Another former
neighbor was left crippled for life after crashing a home built
(experimental) plane.

John Denver forgot to check the fuel level. We were just down Pacific
Grove and were reminded that Denver crashed near there. Was a memorial
bench in the Monarch Butterfly grove.


I reckon I'll stick to flying with my feet on the ground.
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:51:58 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:09:31 -0600, Califbill
wrote:


John Denver forgot to check the fuel level. We were just down Pacific
Grove and were reminded that Denver crashed near there. Was a memorial
bench in the Monarch Butterfly grove.

The story I heard was he had his fuel selector set to reserve the
whole time so when he ran out, he was out with no reserve left to use.
Anyone with an really old VW knows how that works ;-)

Just about every old time motorcyclist has done that.
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Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:09:31 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

As they say, if it flys, floats or fornicates
it is cheaper to rent.

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Probably so but it's nice to engage in those activities without
entering into a business deal every time. :-)

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:21:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:43:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:09:31 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

As they say, if it flys, floats or fornicates
it is cheaper to rent.

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Probably so but it's nice to engage in those activities without
entering into a business deal every time. :-)

The IBM guy here had a plane at Page Field and he lived in the Villas.
He could ride a bike or even walk to his plane without getting out on
the main drag.
That was his excuse.

He said it was great to be able to just hop in the plane and go see
his family in Tennessee.
He ended up selling the plane and buying a second home in Tennessee
when he was transferred to Tampa saying it was a better investment and
about a wash in cost. I think the tie down was more expensive up there
too,

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I suspect this is probably a relatively inexpensive area to store a
plane since there are so many small airports around. The big
attraction for me would be sightseeing along the coast and quickly
hopping over to the Bahamas. Hopefully we'll be able to do the same
thing with Cuba one of these days.

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:33:18 -0500, wrote:

I got the offer several times to go on a sight seeing
ride but we never got around to it. It wasn't really that high on my
bucket list.

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There's nothing like it on a nice day. The views of the water and
beaches are just spectacular.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 00:18:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 22:53:44 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:33:18 -0500, wrote:

I got the offer several times to go on a sight seeing
ride but we never got around to it. It wasn't really that high on my
bucket list.

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There's nothing like it on a nice day. The views of the water and
beaches are just spectacular.

It was a guy at work I did not want to owe a favor, if you get my
drift ;-)

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I'll bet that if we went over to Page sometime we could find someone
who'd take us up.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:33:18 -0500, wrote:

I got the offer several times to go on a sight seeing
ride but we never got around to it. It wasn't really that high on my
bucket list.

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There's nothing like it on a nice day. The views of the water and
beaches are just spectacular.

One of my great airplane rides was on a Douglas C-117 back in about 1966.
From Ogden, UT to the airbase in Novato, Ca. Is a DC-3 variant and we had
to stay below 10,000 feet and it cruised at maybe 200 knots. Beautiful
summer day. Could watch the skiers in the CAlif foothill lakes, and we
were maybe at 1000' AGL over Donner pass. We followed I-80 the whole way.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:04:40 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:33:18 -0500, wrote:

I got the offer several times to go on a sight seeing
ride but we never got around to it. It wasn't really that high on my
bucket list.

===

There's nothing like it on a nice day. The views of the water and
beaches are just spectacular.

One of my great airplane rides was on a Douglas C-117 back in about 1966.
From Ogden, UT to the airbase in Novato, Ca. Is a DC-3 variant and we had
to stay below 10,000 feet and it cruised at maybe 200 knots. Beautiful
summer day. Could watch the skiers in the CAlif foothill lakes, and we
were maybe at 1000' AGL over Donner pass. We followed I-80 the whole way.

We flew home from Puerto Rico, in 1954, in a C-124. Great flight. I was ten years old
and got to ride in the cockpit almost the whole way back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...emaster_II.jpg

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:04:40 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:33:18 -0500, wrote:

I got the offer several times to go on a sight seeing
ride but we never got around to it. It wasn't really that high on my
bucket list.

===

There's nothing like it on a nice day. The views of the water and
beaches are just spectacular.

One of my great airplane rides was on a Douglas C-117 back in about 1966.
From Ogden, UT to the airbase in Novato, Ca. Is a DC-3 variant and we had
to stay below 10,000 feet and it cruised at maybe 200 knots. Beautiful
summer day. Could watch the skiers in the CAlif foothill lakes, and we
were maybe at 1000' AGL over Donner pass. We followed I-80 the whole way.

We flew home from Puerto Rico, in 1954, in a C-124. Great flight. I was ten years old
and got to ride in the cockpit almost the whole way back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...emaster_II.jpg


When I first went to Travis AFB in 1965 our mobile communications squadron
unit shared a building I with the parachute riggers in the back and storage
of those big Rotary engines for the 124's. When I was at Hamilton, there
were still some 124's flying with the reserves and ang. That MATs plane
was probably out of Travis. That is the Marin end of the Golden Gate
Bridge. Going out toward Lands End there were coastal gun emplacements in
WW2. I fish salmon just north of there during the summer.

On 2/21/15 11:46 AM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:04:40 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:33:18 -0500, wrote:

I got the offer several times to go on a sight seeing
ride but we never got around to it. It wasn't really that high on my
bucket list.

===

There's nothing like it on a nice day. The views of the water and
beaches are just spectacular.

One of my great airplane rides was on a Douglas C-117 back in about 1966.
From Ogden, UT to the airbase in Novato, Ca. Is a DC-3 variant and we had
to stay below 10,000 feet and it cruised at maybe 200 knots. Beautiful
summer day. Could watch the skiers in the CAlif foothill lakes, and we
were maybe at 1000' AGL over Donner pass. We followed I-80 the whole way.

We flew home from Puerto Rico, in 1954, in a C-124. Great flight. I was ten years old
and got to ride in the cockpit almost the whole way back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...emaster_II.jpg


When I first went to Travis AFB in 1965 our mobile communications squadron
unit shared a building I with the parachute riggers in the back and storage
of those big Rotary engines for the 124's. When I was at Hamilton, there
were still some 124's flying with the reserves and ang. That MATs plane
was probably out of Travis. That is the Marin end of the Golden Gate
Bridge. Going out toward Lands End there were coastal gun emplacements in
WW2. I fish salmon just north of there during the summer.


Back in the day when I was a reporter/feature writer for the KC Star, I
drew the assignment of going out to the AF Academy to write a series of
articles on KC-MO-KS students. The Star was very friendly with the
military establishment in those days. I was flown out in a two seat jet
trainer, a T30-something or other, and it was a cool and what thought
was a pretty fast flight. That plane was not available a week later, so
the AF flew me back on a DC-3. That was fun, too, but it took a lot
longer. Both planes were very noisy, and the DC-3 had lots of rattles.

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