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Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction Blocks Traffic
Somebody wrote:
''a mile away''? Now you're just being stupid. A couple of things: 1) You have never been on Lake Erie when a 1,000 ft ore boat with 60,000 tons of ore on board, travelling at 25 knots goes down the lake on the assigned mid lake course. You know by the bow wave they leave as they pass you 4-5 miles away. 2) You obviously have you head where the moon doesn't shine. Lew |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:02:20 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:
arrogant, pompous, asshole named Wayne. Look in a mirrror. Moron. |
#83
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HK wrote:
Eisboch When you have powerboaters like Wayne B., who says, "That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play," then you don't have to wonder whether there are ill-mannered guys out there who don't give a damn about the havoc their wakes cause." I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam about their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on Chesapeake Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its tributaries. Wakes do happen, and on a calm day can travel one hell of a long way. I have been on the lake and been hit by a large wake, and have looked up to see a boat that appears to be a mile away. If you made the ICW truly wake free, you would have all boats creeping barely being able to steer. If I am not in a no wake zone or 500 ft. from the shore or a anchored boat, I really don't think about my wake, but I know I am making one, and yes it can impact on the shoreline and boats tied up on a dock. If you were honest with yourself, you would have to agree that your boat does make a wake, and yes that wake has made some impact on other boats, shorelines and docked boats. How often have you been boating on the Bay with very little wind, yet the bay is very choppy from everyone's wake. |
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HK wrote:
Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without churning up a wake. What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake. |
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JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... otnmbrd wrote: Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! It would have been really funny for you if someone in his boat had drowned. Sorta raises a question though. What is the purpose of the ICW? Is it an inland waterway for boat traffic or is it a private fishing channel for locals? Eisboch I say........both. It actually was built as a commercial waterway, that allows rec.boaters and fishing. A large barge, no matter what they do, will have a major impact on rec.boaters, fishing from the shore and small boats, and on the shoreline. A smart boater will stay out of the way of a barge. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. HK wrote: Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without churning up a wake. What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake. Not Harry's new boat. It just leaves "bubbles". :-) Here's a good write up of my primary interest of this subject as it relates to the ICW. Of particular relevance to me is the "Perfect Pass" paragraphs. One thing I learned about the ICW. Next time I'll run "outside" much more. The ICW is interesting and I wanted to experience and see it but it can become stressful and tiring trying to navigate, pass other boats, pass private docks, watch out for fishermen etc. always in a courteous manner. It seems no matter how careful you are, you are occasionally going to **** somebody off. http://www.cruisingworld.com/article...ID=419&catID=0 Eisboch |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Eisboch When you have powerboaters like Wayne B., who says, "That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play," then you don't have to wonder whether there are ill-mannered guys out there who don't give a damn about the havoc their wakes cause." I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam about their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on Chesapeake Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its tributaries. Wakes do happen, and on a calm day can travel one hell of a long way. I have been on the lake and been hit by a large wake, and have looked up to see a boat that appears to be a mile away. If you made the ICW truly wake free, you would have all boats creeping barely being able to steer. If I am not in a no wake zone or 500 ft. from the shore or a anchored boat, I really don't think about my wake, but I know I am making one, and yes it can impact on the shoreline and boats tied up on a dock. If you were honest with yourself, you would have to agree that your boat does make a wake, and yes that wake has made some impact on other boats, shorelines and docked boats. How often have you been boating on the Bay with very little wind, yet the bay is very choppy from everyone's wake. Lots of times. The Bay is "choppy" as often as not, with or without the wind, because of all the boat traffic, especially in the shallow inlet bays. But "choppy" is a lot different than the huge waves some semi-conscious a**holes create with their boat wakes near small boats. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without churning up a wake. What speed is the sailboat going and what speed are you going when you pass them? Even at 5 mph in a 21' ft. you will be leaving a wake. Stop splitting hairs, Reggie. At really low speeds, my boat leaves a practically flat wake that isn't going to cause any small boats nearby any grief. |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:29:06 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. That seems uncalled for. What happened to "lead by example"? Like politics, this discussion, although initially worthwhile, has run it's course. Eisboch Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac 26X/M or a Carolina Skiff. 12-16 inches draft. Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray gas costs. --Vic These wake issue are a could reason to re-think a Mac 26. Without proper ballast, and especially with the board up you'll be bobbing and rolling like a cork. Lee |
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:59:15 -0500, Lee Rayl
wrote: Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac 26X/M or a Carolina Skiff. 12-16 inches draft. Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray gas costs. --Vic These wake issue are a could reason to re-think a Mac 26. Without proper ballast, and especially with the board up you'll be bobbing and rolling like a cork. Sounds like you have one of these Mac 26's. Thanks for the advice. --Vic |
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