Eisboch wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

Traffic cannot be expected to look up every side-channel and slow down in
time if there's boats in them. They'd have to slow down for every side
channel because by the time they could see small boats in them going at
speed it would be too late to slow down. The burden is on the small boat
fishing to keep clear of dangerous wakes coming from the ICW. Go fish
someplace else. There is a rule that says fishing boats shall not impede
traffic in a channel.

Wilbur Hubbard


At some point in the Carolinas (I think South, but can't remember for sure)
we came upon a large fleet of small jon boats, anchored and fishing, smack
in the middle of the channel and along it's shoreline. The guy ahead of us
in a trawler tried to get around them to the left and promptly ran aground.

After several minutes of deliberations, I started weaving my way between the
boats at idle speed on my 52' vessel. Despite this, we still got the one
finger salute from many of the boats along with references to certain parts
of one's anatomy.

Shuda waked them.

Eisboch



The "W" in ICW stands for waterway. By definition, it's a passage for
boats to travel. Fisherman have to understand that and yield to the
traffic. Of course some won't and their special salutes should be ignored.

HK wrote:
Scotty wrote:
" JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Wayne.B" wrote in
message
...
On open water small boats should have no
expectation of wake avoidance. If you go out there,
accept the risks
without whinning.
Huh? Is that how you operate?


Thank God his type is only a small percentage of real
boaters.




This little thread has been very revealing about Wayne.

*You're* talking about a "revealing" thread?

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is
manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.


Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.

Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

Damn, you beat me to it!


I'm just playing along; I don't believe for a moment Reggie has a boat.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for
the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay
and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the
word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually
isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large.
I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have
that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only moderate
winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly a
death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is
manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.


Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While it
was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.

Do you see many container ships on Lake Lanier?



No I don't.

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is
manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.


Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.

Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

Reggie has previously stated that he owns a house boat. I would guess he
cannot take wakes any larger than those produced by PWC.

Maybe that is why he spends all his boating time at the dock........you
know.......real boating hours. ;-)



No, you are incorrect. I said I spent the night on a houseboat, owned
by the marina owner. I never said I owned a houseboat.

HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.


Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.

Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

Damn, you beat me to it!

I'm just playing along; I don't believe for a moment Reggie has a boat.

Harry,
Now you did it, JimH is going to go from thinking I own a houseboat to
not owning any boat. You need to give him a score card so he can keep
up with the action.

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of
the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake
is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.


Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes.
Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.

Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.

Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast, including the
Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?



And how is that different than what I just said?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to
no-wake speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take
long for the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of
the bay and work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with
only moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that
the word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it
usually isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as
large. I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater
would have that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.


Sure you have.

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for
the wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay
and work the way into the exposed tributaries.
On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the
word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the
wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually
isn't a significant problem, in my experience.
The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake.
While it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have
never seen a trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large.
I am trying to figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have
that is leaving a wake larger than a container ship.
Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?
None on Lake Lanier, as I have said before, I have gone boating from the
Great Lakes to Key West.
Hmmm.

A while back you said you regularly boat along the east coast, including
the Atlantic.

So which is it Jim Gallow, errr.........Reggie?


And how is that different than what I just said?


Welcome back Jim Gallow..................although you really never left.
;-)



I think you have crossed the line once you start calling me names, but I
really can't figure out what your point is.