wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? *If you can't swim then stay off
the water.


Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
fundamental lack conservative thinking.


Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
operation.

To make a blnket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve. Here in the PNW
with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
capable crew.


Personnly single haded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work Suit
and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
on deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
inflatable harness.

People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? *A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
say, u r 1 dum fool.
BOb

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
:peration.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy you of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi, fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard

::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!

People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

WILica B.

I said nothing about passangers for hire. My post was direct to
recreational voyages. WHen I have passangers (friends) on board who do
not have a designated duty station they go below when I cross the bar.
Why might I do that?

SInce you most likely have no idea what I mean by "bar" I will for
give you ignorance this time only.
Bob

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:10:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
:peration.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy you of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi, fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard



I was specifically told not to fall off the boat by the skipper. I
didn't fall off the boat! LOL

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:10:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
:peration.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in
the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy you
of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't
try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi, fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work
Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do
some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which
this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard



I was specifically told not to fall off the boat by the skipper. I
didn't fall off the boat! LOL

Rats!

--
Waldo

"Waldo" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:10:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then
stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and
personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
:peration.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in
the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are
stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to
drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy you
of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't
try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions
and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi,
fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work
Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational
vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do
some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which
this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard



I was specifically told not to fall off the boat by the skipper. I
didn't fall off the boat! LOL

Rats!


I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Waldo" wrote in message
web.com...
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:10:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then
stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and
personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
:peration.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in
the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are
stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to
drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy you
of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't
try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions
and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi,
fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work
Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational
vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do
some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which
this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard



I was specifically told not to fall off the boat by the skipper. I
didn't fall off the boat! LOL

Rats!


I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


As long as you didn't push me! FYI, sorry I saw your email today, but
just didn't have the opportunity to give a thoughtful reply. I'll get
to it this evening after I get back from the gym. I hope you had a
nice day!

No rush. I took my time answering yours. . .

Also, Waldo sounds like an ass.

Agreed. He sounds bitter about something. Certainly, he can't still think
Jessica B is just another nym for Wilbur Hubbard. If so, then he sure can't
read with comprehension.


Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"Waldo" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:10:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...

wrote:
How about people just learn how to SWIM???? If you can't swim then
stay
off
the water.


::Jessibur has a very limited view of sailing. His post show a
::fundamental lack conservative thinking.

Wrong! Conservative thinking has at it's core personal rights and
personal
freedom and personal responsibility. It is very conservative to suggest
a
body learn to swim prior to going out on the water.


::Wayne B on the other had is the first person here that really hits the
::nail on the head. Your equipment should fit the vessel and the area of
:peration.

And who makes the rules? Not the captain? Nooooo! You freaking
communists
want all personal responsibility taken away from the captain and given
to
some government entity. You, sir, are a Nazi wannabe.


::To make a bl(a)nket statment as Jsessibur does is nieve (sic). Here in
the
PNW
::with water tempratures 48-55F and sailing typically in 6-12 feet
::swells it is very easy to drown befor a boat can come about... yes,
::even excuting a Willimason Turn. basic law here is if single handed
::and go over youre dead. If you go over with someone else on board
::youre most likely dead.... maybe not if yore really fat had have a
::capable crew.

Oh, clueless one, the point is to NOT fall off the boat. If you are
stupid
or inept to fall off the boat then you deserve to be left behind to
drown.
Your personal responsibility is to take such measures as will satisfy
you of
your OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. If you wish then wear a life jacket but don't
try
to leglislate personal safety decisions and make them mandatory for
everybody. I'm an adult - I will make my own personal safety decisions
and
the federal or state government be damned. If you want to be a Nazi,
fine.
But, leave me out of your world view. Is that too much to ask?


::Person(al)ly single ha(n)ded I tie off and wear a Sterns Type V Work
Suit
::and when in water temp above 70 F Ill substitute an inflatable
::harness. When crossing a bar all passengers are inside. Only crew is
:n deck.Once ouside pasangers are alowed on deck and must wear
::inflatable harness.

Hey dummy! In case you haven't noticed I'm not talking about commercial
enterprises. I'm talking about individual choices on recreational
vessels.
Get a clue and try to stay on topic, d00d!



People run out of energy very quickly in water less than 85 degrees
F., and if you can't deploy the swim ladder, where are you going to
swim to? A lot of people have drowned trying to swim to shore in
cases where they'd have been just fine holding onto the boat.

::Wayne, I comend your conservative and detaild response. To Willica I
::say, u r 1 dum fool.
:: BOb

Bob, you haven't a clue what conservative even means. I suggest you do
some
basic research on the term. And, don't limit it to a political
definition
only. When you have educated yourself then you may return and perhaps
not
make as big a fool out of yourself as is the case in your post to which
this
is the reply.

Dismissed!

Wilbur Hubbard



I was specifically told not to fall off the boat by the skipper. I
didn't fall off the boat! LOL

Rats!


I would have told her to fall off on purpose so I could do some
man-overboard rescue practice drills.

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


In all her glory. As you can tell, she was the life of the party.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2sb0k7q.png
--
Waldo

"Waldo" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
snip

An added advantage would be a wet t-shirt. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


In all her glory. As you can tell, she was the life of the party.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2sb0k7q.png


"Sorry, picture was taken down or moved"