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cavelamb February 19th 11 02:37 PM

PFDs
 
I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb


slide[_4_] February 19th 11 04:59 PM

PFDs
 
On 2/19/2011 7:37 AM, CaveLamb wrote:
I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?


When single handing, I made it my business to clip on to one of two
jacklines I had rigged or another solid place. I used a harness with two
lines / clips so I could clip on, and then clip off of something else. I
saw no reason to wear a PFD while single handing.

Clearly this is a good idea for safety as is wearing a helmet when
riding in your automobile, but few do either because for most, it
reduces the experience. Clearly an incident may knock you off the boat
and knock you silly at the same time so a PFD can easily save your life
while others turn the boat and try for a rescue. So it's really a
personal choice.

Before you go further in this, though, I strongly suggest you try
retrieving someone from the ocean as if it were a MOB drill. Getting
someone on deck from most boats with significant freeboard is MUCH more
difficult than most people envision.



cavelamb February 19th 11 05:30 PM

PFDs
 
slide wrote:

Before you go further in this, though, I strongly suggest you try
retrieving someone from the ocean as if it were a MOB drill. Getting
someone on deck from most boats with significant freeboard is MUCH more
difficult than most people envision.



We practice all the time, slide.
But my boat has a sugar scoop stern with a drop down stern ladder.

Retrieving hats is harder...


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb


Justin C[_39_] February 19th 11 06:12 PM

PFDs
 
In article , CaveLamb wrote:
I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?


Wife and I wear ours at all times we're not below. I'm not convinced
we'd float for long once all our clothing layers and foul-weather gear
got water-logged. If I'm single-handing then I clip on when moving about
outside the cockpit, and the PFD doubles as a harness, so it is always
warn - though should be redundant if I'm clipped on.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Wilbur Hubbard February 19th 11 07:14 PM

PFDs
 
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?



Hell no! Never have, never will. Just don't fall
off the boat.

Life jackets are for children only as they aren't
cognizant of the danger of falling overboard.


Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce[_3_] February 19th 11 10:57 PM

PFDs
 
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?



I don't wear them, nor know anyone who wears them in normal
conditions, but it IS still is a good idea.

Cheers,

Bruce

Wilbur Hubbard February 19th 11 11:07 PM

PFDs
 
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?



I don't wear them, nor know anyone who wears them in normal
conditions, but it IS still a good idea.




No, it's NOT a good idea, it's a stupid idea. If you can't keep from falling
off your boat in normal conditions then you don't belong there in the first
place. And, if conditions are so bad that there is a good chance you'll be
knocked or washed overboard then use a harness and jack lines to keep from
going overboard if you need to be outside. Otherwise, stay inside.


Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce[_3_] February 19th 11 11:10 PM

PFDs
 
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:14:21 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
om...
I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?



Hell no! Never have, never will. Just don't fall
off the boat.

Life jackets are for children only as they aren't
cognizant of the danger of falling overboard.


Wilbur Hubbard


Ah... and there speaks the voice of experience.

Now google on "Pen Duick and "Eric Tabarly", who was a former officer
in the French navy who is often considered the father of French
yachting.His sailing experiences include 2 Whitbreads, two time OSTAR
winner, and a lifetime of sailing. But of course, he just did it and
never felt it necessary to flaunt his experiences in a book, so I'm
sure that you never heard of him.

Yes, the voice of experience..... the armchair sailor, who read a book
about sailing.

Cheers,

Bruce

cavelamb February 19th 11 11:40 PM

PFDs
 
Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?



I don't wear them, nor know anyone who wears them in normal
conditions, but it IS still is a good idea.

Cheers,

Bruce


At least over here, it could be seen as a responsibility thing.
If someone went over the rail without a PFD and died, heirs might
start a legal witch hunt. But if you (the person responsible for
the safety of everyone aboard) DO require them and the above happens
I think you'd have a better stance in court.

Sux, maybe, that such is a consideration. But it is.

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb


Frogwatch[_2_] February 20th 11 03:16 AM

PFDs
 
On Feb 19, 6:40*pm, CaveLamb wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:


I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.


One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.


But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?


I don't wear them, nor know anyone who wears them in normal
conditions, but it IS still is a good idea.


Cheers,


Bruce


At least over here, it could be seen as a responsibility thing.
If someone went over the rail without a PFD and died, heirs might
start a legal witch hunt. *But if you (the person responsible for
the safety of everyone aboard) DO require them and the above happens
I think you'd have a better stance in court.

Sux, maybe, that such is a consideration. *But it is.

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: *http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb


I swim very well and I sail in warm waters. However, I ALWAYS wear my
auto-inflate jacket with auto lite and locater beacon. I have a lot
to live for.
My policy is that anybody who is not confident of their swimming
(including anybody under 16) wears a jacket at all times.
At night, everybody (outside) wears theirs and gets tethered to an eye
bolt.
In bad weather, everybody wears one.
Below, they may be removed.


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