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"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:15:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:34:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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I just hope these morons keep it up. If they can't tell a real woman
from
Wilbur Hubbard then they can't read with comprehension nor can they
relate
to a real woman. If this keeps up, pretty soon I'll have you all for
myself.
But, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of that blankity-blank
gas
can
guy. LOL! Maybe I'll drill small holes in his pitons.

Wilbur Hubbard

HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.

You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you
run
out of gas?

Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.

Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines
on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he
was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

And, once again the fabled Willie proves his ignorance. Pitons are not
"put into cracks in the rocks" they are pounded in with a hammer.

Poor uninformed one, I guess you never heard of a removable piton?

Try this:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47833988...Patent-5484132

and this:

http://www.wikipatents.com/US-Patent...ethod-of-using

and this:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html

And, hammering conventional pitons into cracks in the rock face is still a
form of putting them in. You lose again, Bruce. LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

Hmmm, hoisted on his own piton.

LOL!

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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What's most attractive about men in general is when they don't condemn
a woman because of who she is. I most appreciate it when a man bothers
to answer a question. I most least appreciate it when a man is so
insecure that they make all sorts of vile claims without a shred of
evidence.

Sounds a little like Waldo. . . About the only time I'll condemn a woman is
when she tries hard to act like a man and to usurp the rightful role of a
man. Many liberal woman are like that. They let this equality nonsense go
too far. Look at that harridan Pelosi. I couldn't imagine ANY man putting up
with THAT!

I think if it ever worked out for me to go sailing with you or even
meet somewhere for a drink and we documented with a picture, they
would have a mental breakdown.

They would claim it was a fake. They would yell, "Photoshopped!!" I think
we would need to shot a little video. Videos aren't easy to fake like still
photos. I could record you pulling up the anchor wearing only gloves and a
bikini. LOL! They wouldn't be able to deny it then.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Bruce" wrote in message
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Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Wilbur Hubbard

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard
they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.

I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.

But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes
their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.

If there's one thing I appreciate is a consistent explanation, but as
you point out, it doesn't seem to happen from that side of the debate.
I think there is climate change happening, but that's always been the
case. I read somewhere sun spots are on the rise (more than usual in
the cycles). What about that???

Yours is the reasonable view. Saying "climate change" is redundant as that's
what climate does - it changes. It goes through natural and normal cycles.
There have been numerous warm periods and numerous ice ages throughout
history and well before mankind arrived on the planet. We happen to be in an
interglacial period right now and it's likely to be relatively short-lived
if past history is any kind of predictor of future performance.

It would be lucicrous to ignore Sol's energy output as the primary factor
affecting the various planets' temperatures. Even Venus with it's runaway
greenhouse effect will be slightly hotter during a cycle of greater solar
energy output. Not only are the polar ice caps melting somewhat on Earth but
the Martian polar ice and dry ice caps are also melting somewhat. Is there
man-made global warming on Mars. Yah right!

No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.

Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a
giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?

I don't wish anyone dead. It's a pretty wild place, and it just gets
old after a while. I really don't want to have that sort of behavior
in my face over and over. I'm sure there are normal people who live
there... how they can stand it though is beyond me.

God apparently wants them dead as He did destroy Soddom and Gomorrah for
much the same thing that's going on in San Francisco and Key West and New
Orleans today. But, you're right, it's up to God to decide who lives and who
dies and we humans shouldn't wish death on anybody - even disgusting creeps,
so I take it back.

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I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!

It just didn't do anything for me. Ok. I don't like Clinton.. never
did, but he was really handsome when he was younger... lol

Freaking hillbilly, IMHO.

We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in
a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like
spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed
medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was
positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.

I think if your job is on the line (certainly these days!), why
would you risk it?

Because one is dumb as a box of rocks? LOL!

We have basically the same policy... all injuries have to be reported,
you have to see someone, and you have to take a drug test. I got
something in my eye a couple of years ago... it was sort of stupid to
have to take a drug test, but those were the rules.

We must be twins. I also got something poked in my eye - a sharp thorn from
a tree branch when I was working pinpointing a small water main leak in the
brush alongside of the roadway. It bloodied the white part of my eye so I
had to go see an eye doc. Automatic drug test. But, I didn't do drugs so, of
course it came back negative. I always worried about a blotched test where
some Rube in the lab did something wrong or mixed up the specimens or
something so it came back positive. But, they claimed to do double-blind
testing to rule out that sort of mistake.

I don't think you should get any workers comp if you're stoned and you
get hurt.

Agreed but with the caveat of responsibility. If you get accidently hurt
because of somebody else's negligence it's not really fair to punish you
even if you were stoned. Seems to me it would only be fair if your being
stoned contributed to or caused the accident.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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HAH! Gas can guy... I'll start calling him that. I was calling him Mr.
Rescue, but I like that better.

You might **** him off. ;-) Then where will you be the NEXT time you run
out of gas?

That's true... now that I have his cell! LOL

Better give it back. Just get his number next time. LOL!

Umm... what's a piton? Mountain climbing... that's all I could come up
with.

Yes, they put them into cracks in the rocks and tie their safety lines on
them. If they are drilled full of holes they might fail. You did say he
was
a rock climber, didn't you. LOL!

Oh.. ok. I'm definitely NOT a rock climber.

I don't think Bruce is, either. But, he probably knows something about
rocks - crack rocks. That's how muddled his thinking of late seems to be.
LOL!

Be sure to read my posts smacking Bruce down for his ignorant statement
about pitons all being hammered into the rock. I sure put him in his place.
Next time he might think twice before challenging this most eclectic sailor.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Bruce" wrote in message
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Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.

Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.

But, the site mentions NOTHING about 'hammering them in.' And you said
pitons were always hammered in. One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Try to read with comprehension, please.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:46:43 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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snip

Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.

But, the site mentions NOTHING about 'hammering them in.' And you said
pitons were always hammered in. One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Try to read with comprehension, please.

Wilbur Hubbard

Willie, you are simply ridiculous. Here you are hanging over a 1,000
ft. drop and you go to place the next piton that is going to support
you as you rappel down the cliff face. And you are going to daintily
slide the piton in a crack, and hook on and let go your present
anchor?

You might say that you are; sitting there in your easy-boy recliner.
But if you really were up on that face you'd hammer that sucker in,
just like everyone does.

Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:46:43 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
snip

Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I
prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.

But, the site mentions NOTHING about 'hammering them in.' And you said
pitons were always hammered in. One can tap in a cam type piton with
another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Try to read with comprehension, please.

Wilbur Hubbard

Willie, you are simply ridiculous. Here you are hanging over a 1,000
ft. drop and you go to place the next piton that is going to support
you as you rappel down the cliff face. And you are going to daintily
slide the piton in a crack, and hook on and let go your present
anchor?

You might say that you are; sitting there in your easy-boy recliner.
But if you really were up on that face you'd hammer that sucker in,
just like everyone does.

Cheers,

Bruce

Duh! Rock climbing is all about GOING UP! Real rock climbers use pitons
mainly for belay and safety lines. Most rock faces nowadays have lots of
pitons already in place. Cam-type pitons are for existing cracks and they
work just fine with no hammering in at all.

I have done some rock climbing, have you? My rock climbing was mostly in the
context of spelunking. You don't hammer pitons into solid rock. You must
look for cracks or soft spots. Cam type pitons are very secure when placed
in cracks of workable width. Get a clue.

Wilbur Hubbard