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This is why I am trying to determine under what flag I can register the boat
I intend to buy. I wish to buy the boat then sail it indefinitely. I don't
intend to "import" it anywhere - for a start where too? I am an NZ citizen,
but haven't lived there for 35 years and have no connections there at all
anymore. I currently reside in France, but will have no more connections to
France once I am on the boat. Where do I therefore register to? Country of
birth? Country of last residence? Neither NZ or France would allow that as I
have no address in either country. Or keep the existing registration (which
seems impossible)? Or can I register it under a flag of convenience like
Panama?

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Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business if you have no respect
for your freedom.

This is why I am trying to determine under what flag I can register the

boat
I intend to buy. I wish to buy the boat then sail it indefinitely. I don't
intend to "import" it anywhere - for a start where too? I am an NZ

citizen,
but haven't lived there for 35 years and have no connections there at all
anymore. I currently reside in France, but will have no more connections

to
France once I am on the boat. Where do I therefore register to? Country of
birth? Country of last residence? Neither NZ or France would allow that as

I
have no address in either country. Or keep the existing registration

(which
seems impossible)? Or can I register it under a flag of convenience like
Panama?



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Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business if you have no respect
for your freedom.

What a wacko. The gentleman I intend to buy it from wants my business.

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Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business


Actually I think your country does need the business, with record currnet
account imbalance you'd probably quite like a couple of hundred thousand
hard euros in the bank. The USD is just monopoly money these days.

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Bobsprit wrote:=20
Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business

Didn't see the new figures about our trade deficit, huh?


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the squathead is flogging a book. nothing more.

Buy it somewhere else - we don't need you business


Actually I think your country does need the business, with record currnet
account imbalance you'd probably quite like a couple of hundred thousand
hard euros in the bank. The USD is just monopoly money these days.









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no flag. you can't get one. you can, however, register your boat in whatever
state you plan to use it in. your state registration is more or less accepted
in most Carribean countries, except of course you beloved French countries.
There they will fine you for trying to enter without a properly documented
boat.

This is why I am trying to determine under what flag I can register the boat
I intend to buy. I wish to buy the boat then sail it indefinitely. I don't
intend to "import" it anywhere - for a start where too? I am an NZ citizen,
but haven't lived there for 35 years and have no connections there at all
anymore. I currently reside in France, but will have no more connections to
France once I am on the boat. Where do I therefore register to? Country of
birth? Country of last residence? Neither NZ or France would allow that as I
have no address in either country. Or keep the existing registration (which
seems impossible)? Or can I register it under a flag of convenience like
Panama?









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"Registered" boats a non-citizen can own and operate. "Documented" they can
not.

Well,

I'm not an 'undesirable alien', but I've just recently (three weeks ago)
bought a US registered boat
(lying in Georgia). I was meaning to sail the boat along the East Coast to
Newport, before crossing
the Atlantic to my 'home country' (Belgium).
I was informed by a Flemish counterpart of the ASA that there would be no VAT
(Value Added Tax: 21%
!!!!) due because the boat was built in 1984. Once I got to cutting through
the red tape to get the
boat registered in Belgium, it turned out to be that ... I will have to pay
this additional 21%
(where on earth is the "added value"?).
Because I don't want to save the Belgian economy all by myself, I've decided,
with pain in my heart,
to re-sell the boat.
Should anyone be interested ... http://plastiekske.tripod.com/ForSale
Asking price: US$72500 because I want to make a quick sale (I've paid
US$74500, which already was
IMO a bargain)

Frank








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"Plastiekske" wrote in message
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Well,

I'm not an 'undesirable alien', but I've just recently (three weeks ago)

bought a US registered boat

When you bought it, did the US authorities allow you a transit period to
take the boat back to Europe under their flag, or were you expected to
transfer it immediately to Belgian flag before taking possession?

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Ric wrote:

When you bought it, did the US authorities allow you a transit period to
take the boat back to Europe under their flag, or were you expected to
transfer it immediately to Belgian flag before taking possession?


no: the boat had to be deleted from documentation immediately: a non-US citizen cannot document a
boat in the USA.



 
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