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hk wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:
"La N" wrote:
:
:"Vincent" wrote in message
:news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican
hypocrisy on : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the
girl.
: :
:
: What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
:
: Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: business.
:
:
: So she says
:
: haven't seen the boy myself
:
:

Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
Nazi liar.

Its a plain fact

Mommy said they were getting married

of course the gullible will believe anything they hear

I m sure you sucked up to curveball

Vince

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Fred J. McCall wrote:
"La N" wrote:
:
:"Vincent" wrote in message
:news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy
on : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: :
:
: What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
:
: Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: business.
:
:
: So she says
:
: haven't seen the boy myself
:
:

Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
Nazi liar.

:
:I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because
it :will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
:

I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.

Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?


After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
thugs have done has been for good reasons.

Bush and Cheney aside, and they really have nothing to do with this
"debate", I want to mention - first of all Fred has long been in my
killfile, and I don't care about his opinions on *anything*. Secondly,
unfortunately with young marriages like this, especially starting out with a
child, statistically the divorce rate is high. But, how could I *not* wish
her the best and much happiness. I saw her on stage (on TV) holding and
cuddling her little 4 month old baby brother. I don't believe for a minute
those rumours about the 4 month old. I believe he is legitimately Sarah's
child. To me, it is not a partisan issue.

- nilita

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:47:23 -0400, hk wrote:

Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood in a
: :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
:
: Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
:
: :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
:
: And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with your
: politics?
:
:
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?



The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.

The mother is too busy being an attention whore to do any parenting.
The daughter is just following that example and tryng to get some
atention for herself.

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:30:26 -0400, hk wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:47:23 -0400, hk wrote:

Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood in a
: :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
:
: Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
:
: :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
:
: And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with your
: politics?
:
:
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?


The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.

The mother is too busy being an attention whore to do any parenting.
The daughter is just following that example and tryng to get some
atention for herself.



Well, I think the mother is fair game, but I don't believe the daughter
is.

She must have looked like fair game to whoever bagged her.

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"Vincent" wrote in message
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Raymond O'Hara wrote: : "Fred J. McCall" wrote
in message : ... :
hk wrote: : : : :Of course not. If I were
"pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively seeking : :judicial or
legislative solutions, : : : : And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing
like that... : : : what does roe v wade force on anybody?
: it stops the government from having control over women. : :
:Right-wingers don't seem to understand the concept...or the
:underpinnings of of Roe v. Wade. :

Or the lack of support. Perhaps it's left-wingers who don't seem to
understand?

:By all that is holy to them Constitutionally and legally, they should be
:supporters of Roe v. Wade. :

Please point to the text in the Constitution that Roe v. Wade is based
on.



Not the issue

The Constitution is interpreted, not read

http://www.usscplus.com/info/interp.htm

The court was interpreting the "Liberty" portion of the due process
clause, as It has since Meyer v Nebraska
http://www.oyez.org/cases/1901-1939/1922/1922_325/
Vince




wow, a law banning the teaching of foriegn languages. zenophobia run amuck

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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: :
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : hk wrote:
: : : :
: : : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : : :
: : :
: : : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: : :
: : : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : : business.
: : :
: : :
: : :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: : :
: : :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: : :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: : :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood in a
: : :more normal fashion, eh?
: : :
: :
: : Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: : contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: : I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
: :
: : :
: : :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: : :
: :
: : And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with your
: : politics?
: :
: :
: :snerk
: :
: :Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
: :then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
: :the public schools?
: :
:
: Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
: PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?
:
: Are you always this stupid?
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
: issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
: WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:
:The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
:children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
:teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
:to...pregnancy.
:

So the problem is YOU, since the issue is what you "suspect".

:
:What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
:daughter for the side effects of sexuality.
:

Yeah, like nobody else ever gets pregnant. What does this have to do
with her being VP? The job isn't "raise our children for us",
although that seems to be what you want the government to be doing.

So the problem is you're stupid. Glad we sorted that out.

Still waiting for you to demonstrate that "hypocrisy" you keep
nattering on about.

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

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hk wrote:
:
:Well, I agree the girl is off limits, but the mother certainly isn't.
:

So why don't you find something to talk about that has to do with THE
MOTHER?

:
:I'm sure the Republicans would prefer this would just go away, but since
:the mother makes such an issue of teaching "abstinence," and working to
:make sure proper sex education and proper information about
:contraceptives are not made available in the public schools, I think the
:failures of such thinking should be an issue in this campaign.
:

Yes, and nobody but children of such parents ever gets pregnant.

What a load of codswollops!

You may not know what "hypocrisy" means, but you do a great job of
demonstrating it.

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain

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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "La N" wrote:
: :
: :"Vincent" wrote in message
: :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: : So she says
: :
: : haven't seen the boy myself
: :
: :
:
: Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: Nazi liar.
:
: :
: :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: :will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
: :
:
: I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
:
: Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
:
:
:After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
:thugs have done has been for good reasons.
:

I rest my case.

Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. All you can do is
slime and hate. Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
election that should be an easy win for them.

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain

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"La N" wrote:

:
:"hk" wrote in message
...
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "La N" wrote:
: :
: :"Vincent" wrote in message
: :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy
: on : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: : So she says
: :
: : haven't seen the boy myself
: :
: :
:
: Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: Nazi liar.
:
: :
: :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because
: it :will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
: :
:
: I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
:
: Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
:
:
: After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: thugs have done has been for good reasons.
:
:Bush and Cheney aside, and they really have nothing to do with this
:"debate", I want to mention - first of all Fred has long been in my
:killfile, and I don't care about his opinions on *anything*.
:

Poor Nilita. One of these days she'll get over the fact that junior
high school tactics like her trotting out her killfile at the drop of
a hat don't work with anyone but junior high school mentalities.

:
:Secondly,
:unfortunately with young marriages like this, especially starting out with a
:child, statistically the divorce rate is high. But, how could I *not* wish
:her the best and much happiness. I saw her on stage (on TV) holding and
:cuddling her little 4 month old baby brother. I don't believe for a minute
:those rumours about the 4 month old. I believe he is legitimately Sarah's
:child. To me, it is not a partisan issue.
:

To me it shouldn't be an issue even if it was true.

And the DEMOCRATS complain about 'smear machines'!

Feh!

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates