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Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 02:17 AM

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
So the kid's pregnant. That shouldn't be a bother for anyone,
especially the dems. There are programs for her, plenty of them,
including a WIC card which should be readily available to take care of
all her (and ehr babies) basic needs. No need to condemn her, after
all, when a previous POTUS can lie about getting a suck-job from an
intern and be praised for it, then who cares if the under aged Palin
girl is going to have a baby?

Seems that the only thing really unapealing to the dems is that the
daughter is going to keep the baby, instead of having it's brains
sucked out.



another welcomed burden on society *tisk*

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


the issue is the republicans won't admit this is how kids act.
"abstinance education" certainly didn't work on the daughter, the mother
keeps telling us it should be the exclusive law of the land.
maybe if the kid had some education on the subject beyond watching MTV and
shows like the OC she might not be a two time mother by age 17.
this girl isn't some trailertrash slut.
shes from a staunchly christian upper middle class family.
what are the long term prospects for two 17 year olds who are married with a
kid?
..
you guys fight abortion , but then you also fight against anything that will
prevent the need for abortions
kids are going to screw, are we just supposed to hope the girl keeps getting
lucky?.



Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 02:24 AM

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:


* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.


It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.


However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.


http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php


actually the story didn't start friday. it just became national friday
because the mother was picked to be VP on friday.
its been kicking around alaska for a few months.
that spin article you posted is useless its like those old photos of her
being pregnant with her youngest daughter, attempts at damage control.



[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:00 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:

: "La N" wrote:
: :: :"Vincent" wrote in message

: :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: : So she says
: :
: : haven't seen the boy myself
: :
: :
:
: Typical Vinnie. *Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: Nazi liar.
:
: :
: :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: :will help her mother politically. *17 is awfully young.
: :
:
: I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
:
: Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
:
:
:After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
:thugs have done has been for good reasons.
:

I rest my case.

Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
election that should be an easy win for them.

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
*your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain


You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..

Vincent September 2nd 08 03:15 AM

This is not a test
 
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "La N" wrote:
: :
: :"Vincent" wrote in message
: :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: : So she says
: :
: : haven't seen the boy myself
: :
: :
:
: Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: Nazi liar.
:
: :
: :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: :will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
: :
:
: I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
:
: Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
:
:
:After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
:thugs have done has been for good reasons.
:

I rest my case.

Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. All you can do is
slime and hate. Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
election that should be an easy win for them.




the post speaks for itself
you are the abusive one "nazi liar" etc


Vince

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 03:21 AM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "La N" wrote:
: : :: :"Vincent" wrote in message
:
: : :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : hk wrote:
: : : :
: : : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : : :
: : :
: : : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: : :
: : : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : : business.
: : :
: : :
: : : So she says
: : :
: : : haven't seen the boy myself
: : :
: : :
: :
: : Typical Vinnie. *Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: : Nazi liar.
: :
: : :
: : :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: : :will help her mother politically. *17 is awfully young.
: : :
: :
: : I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: : keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
: :
: : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: :
: :
: :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: :
:
: I rest my case.
:
: Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: election that should be an easy win for them.
:
:
:You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
:harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
:liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
:

That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.

--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:27 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:

: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "La N" wrote:
: : :: :"Vincent" wrote in message
:
: : :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : hk wrote:
: : : :
: : : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : : :
: : :
: : : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: : :
: : : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : : business.
: : :
: : :
: : : So she says
: : :
: : : haven't seen the boy myself
: : :
: : :
: :
: : Typical Vinnie. *Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: : Nazi liar.
: :
: : :
: : :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: : :will help her mother politically. *17 is awfully young.
: : :
: :
: : I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: : keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
: :
: : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: :
: :
: :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: :
:
: I rest my case.
:
: Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: election that should be an easy win for them.
:
:
:You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
:harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
:liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
:

That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.

--
"It's always different. *It's always complex. *But at some point,
*somebody has to draw the line. *And that somebody is always me....
*I am the law."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer


I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth. The
truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
an ideologue with a very good imagination.

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 03:34 AM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : :
: : :
: : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : :
: :
: : I rest my case.
: :
: : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : election that should be an easy win for them.
: :
: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
:I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
:don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
:

When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
are.

What do they teach in HS these days? Nothing about little details
like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?

:
:The
:truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
:an ideologue with a very good imagination.
:

And you want to outdo him?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:52 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 10:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: wrote:

:
: :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : :
: : :
: : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : :
: :
: : I rest my case.
: :
: : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : election that should be an easy win for them.
: :
: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
:I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
:don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
:

When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
are.

What do they teach in HS these days? *Nothing about little details
like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?

:
:The
:truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
:an ideologue with a very good imagination.
:

And you want to outdo him?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


Stick around for a while, I will leave you to your own interpretation..

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:56 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 10:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: wrote:

:
: :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : :
: : :
: : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : :
: :
: : I rest my case.
: :
: : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : election that should be an easy win for them.
: :
: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
:I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
:don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
:

When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
are.

What do they teach in HS these days? *Nothing about little details
like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?

:
:The
:truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
:an ideologue with a very good imagination.
:

And you want to outdo him?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


But when he starts accusing you of molesting your own child, or says
"it's great that one of your kids cast's are off, now she can still
give her boyfriend a handjob".. you will start to know what I mean..

Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 04:25 AM

This is not a test
 

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say,
creationism.
: :
:
: So your claim is that virgin births are common?
:
: Who knew?
:
:
:Maybe in your family, not in mine.
:

So it would seem that abstinence will prevent pregnancy after all. So
much for your silly comparison to creationism, above.

--

who abstains?
certainly not the daughter of the woman who wants to make it the law of the
land for everybody else's family.
kids abstain from sex the way a dog abstains from eating a steak placed its
its bowl.
that's the point.




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