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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood in a
: :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
:
: Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
:
: :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
:
: And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with your
: politics?
:
:
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood in a
: :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
:
: Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
:
: :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
:
: And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with your
: politics?
:
:
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?



The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.

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"Vincent" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...


The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't
so dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the
ways to prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into
adulthood in a more normal fashion, eh?

Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.



A 17 year old gets knocked up and the blame is on the mother for not
explaining the birds and the bees?

By God Harry, we'll make a Republican out of you yet!

Eisboch

No its the mother's insistence that other children not be taught the
truth about contraception

The concept is lying by omission


I think this poor girl has had enough publicity. I think by now her mother
"gets it". I just tuned into some introductory remarks at the Republican
Convention, and they are adamant that they respect the privacy of certain
family matters and wish others would too. As much as hypocrisy on the part
of politicos gets my goat, there is absolutely no getting around it;
politicians are hypocrites. I hope those poor kids survive being in the
limelight without too much damage to their psyche, and I hope this becomes a
non-issue soon.

- nilita

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican
hypocrisy on : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the
girl.
: : :
: : : : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: : : : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any
of your
: : business.
: : : :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood
in a : :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
: : Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
: : :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
: : And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with
your
: politics?
: :
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?



The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.

Through your life have you followed everything your parents taught you?

Teaching and acceptance by the student don't necessisarily go hand in hand.

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On Sep 1, 6:47*pm, hk wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways to
: :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into adulthood in a
: :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
:
: Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? *We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
:
: :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
:
: And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with your
: politics?
:
:
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. *Let's try again. *If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?

The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You would be wrong, er, um, Lobsta' boating again...

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La N wrote:
"Vincent" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...


The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't
so dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the
ways to prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into
adulthood in a more normal fashion, eh?

Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.


A 17 year old gets knocked up and the blame is on the mother for not
explaining the birds and the bees?

By God Harry, we'll make a Republican out of you yet!

Eisboch
No its the mother's insistence that other children not be taught the
truth about contraception

The concept is lying by omission


I think this poor girl has had enough publicity. I think by now her mother
"gets it". I just tuned into some introductory remarks at the Republican
Convention, and they are adamant that they respect the privacy of certain
family matters and wish others would too. As much as hypocrisy on the part
of politicos gets my goat, there is absolutely no getting around it;
politicians are hypocrites. I hope those poor kids survive being in the
limelight without too much damage to their psyche, and I hope this becomes a
non-issue soon.

- nilita



Well, I agree the girl is off limits, but the mother certainly isn't.
I'm sure the Republicans would prefer this would just go away, but since
the mother makes such an issue of teaching "abstinence," and working to
make sure proper sex education and proper information about
contraceptives are not made available in the public schools, I think the
failures of such thinking should be an issue in this campaign.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
La N wrote:
"Vincent" wrote in message
news:NZZuk.266$1a2.115@trnddc04...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...


The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't
so dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the
ways to prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into
adulthood in a more normal fashion, eh?

Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.


A 17 year old gets knocked up and the blame is on the mother for not
explaining the birds and the bees?

By God Harry, we'll make a Republican out of you yet!

Eisboch
No its the mother's insistence that other children not be taught the
truth about contraception

The concept is lying by omission


I think this poor girl has had enough publicity. I think by now her
mother "gets it". I just tuned into some introductory remarks at the
Republican Convention, and they are adamant that they respect the privacy
of certain family matters and wish others would too. As much as
hypocrisy on the part of politicos gets my goat, there is absolutely no
getting around it; politicians are hypocrites. I hope those poor kids
survive being in the limelight without too much damage to their psyche,
and I hope this becomes a non-issue soon.

- nilita

Well, I agree the girl is off limits, but the mother certainly isn't. I'm
sure the Republicans would prefer this would just go away, but since the
mother makes such an issue of teaching "abstinence," and working to make
sure proper sex education and proper information about contraceptives are
not made available in the public schools, I think the failures of such
thinking should be an issue in this campaign.

Well, if the mother - and the Repubs - are smart, they will not make sex
education a campaign issue leading up to the election.

- nilita

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"La N" wrote:
:
:"Vincent" wrote in message
:news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: :
:
: What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
:
: Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: business.
:
:
: So she says
:
: haven't seen the boy myself
:
:

Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
Nazi liar.

:
:I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
:will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
:

I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.

Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
"La N" wrote:
:
:"Vincent" wrote in message
:news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: :
:
: What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
:
: Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: business.
:
:
: So she says
:
: haven't seen the boy myself
:
:

Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
Nazi liar.

:
:I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
:will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
:

I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.

Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?


After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
thugs have done has been for good reasons.

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Fred J. McCall wrote:


Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?


Keep em stupid if that's they way momma wants it right?

Dumb and pregnant


Vince