On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:12:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal
zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like, and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to
mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to it.



Will you be offering ordinations on eBay?

No. There will be only one high priest: Me. I have big plans for the altar
girls. And, there will be the occasional human sacrifice.

OH OH - Can I help? I have a machete.....

All the best,

Tom
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"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:52:17 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:46:42 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

The native Americans saw
divinity everywhere, and "state enforcement"??? How do you connect
that
idea
with their spiritual beliefs???

===========================

Two unrelated thoughts, should have been a new paragraph. My bad.


OK.

Meanwhile, I had a long discussion with a hydrangea yesterday. Not sure
if
the two Molsons were in any way connected with the experience.

I just lost half of a very good raisin oatmeal cookie all over my
monitor. :)

Later,

Tom

There's a pattern, so my conclusion may hold water. There's a creek I fish
where there are quite a few blue herons. They're amazing when they fly
slowly over the boat. Some have wingspans of almost 20 feet, but I've only
seen birds that size after a couple of Molsons. My friend Tom agrees,
although with him, it's Coors Light, and it requires 4 of them before his
observations match mine.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Gould 0738 wrote:
I was reading this book about early North American exploration. It
said
that the a portion of the French priests that came over to convert the
Native Americans did so with the belief that they were the lost tribe of
Israel.

Could have been. The indigenous population of the Americas resulted from
a
mixture of people from various parts of the world for many hundreds, if
not
thousands,
of years before the Columbian expeditions.

The original missionary priests in the Mississippi vallley reported
discovering
native tribes with blue and hazel eyes, and fair skin. In New England,
three
British missionaries were about to be burned at the stake. Two were
English,
the third had
grown up speaking Welsh as a child. As the Native Americans were geting
ready
to
light off the pyres, the Welsh missionary began calling out to God in
his
childhood language. Many of the words were so similar to the language
used by
the tribe that had captured these missionaries that some of the captors
understood that he was calling out, in a dialect of *their own language*
to a
powerful spirit for help. The missionaries were released unharmed, as a
result
of this amazing "sign".

There are literally scores of similar accounts, those are the two I
remember
most easily.


Don't forget Blazing Saddles, in which the Indian chief spoke Yiddish.

Every child born in America should be sent home with a copy of that movie.

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:09:34 +0000, Gould 0738 wrote:


Could have been. The indigenous population of the Americas resulted from a
mixture of people from various parts of the world for many hundreds, if
not thousands,
of years before the Columbian expeditions.

You bet. Discoveries of Kennewick Man and the Spirit Cave Mummy show us
how much we don't know.

http://www.mnh.si.edu/arctic/html/kennewick_man.html

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story....7&nav=168XKCXa

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy.

I don't know. That plan has been tried before, rather often resulting in a
religious tradition that doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal
zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like, and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to
mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to
it.



Will you be offering ordinations on eBay?

No. There will be only one high priest: Me. I have big plans for the
altar
girls. And, there will be the occasional human sacrifice.



Wow...will you accept tithes?

Yes, but only from a list of approved items:

1) Any wine from Dr. Frank Konstantin Vineyards.
2) Keebler Pecan Sandies (cookies, and not the low fat version)
3) Lox & garlic bagels from Brownstein's on Monroe Ave in Rochester
4) Cor-Bon hollow point ammo in .45 Long Colt. Cripes! It's expensive!
5) Free outboard winterizing service
6) Kegs of Molson - the real Canadian version, smuggled across Lake Ontario.

The list will grow.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message

It only says that government shall not establish or promote a specific
religion.

Not quite -- you've only got the one side. It says the government shall
make *no law* regarding an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free
exercise thereof.



If there is no law, then why do people need to go to court to deal with the
problem?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:12:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal
zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like, and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to
mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to
it.



Will you be offering ordinations on eBay?

No. There will be only one high priest: Me. I have big plans for the
altar
girls. And, there will be the occasional human sacrifice.

OH OH - Can I help? I have a machete.....

Yeah, but I plan on sacrificing those who are most offensive to my church of
pussy. I'm thinking maybe Dave Hall should be the first to be filleted. If
you can handle that, you're in.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy.

I don't know. That plan has been tried before, rather often resulting in a
religious tradition that doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

Not even if I'm really really REALLY devout?

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:27:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:05:08 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage.
When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible
action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering the
circumstances.

Of course, the idea was to learn from history, not judge history. We are
a good people, who have occasionally done bad things. Japanese internment
was a bad thing.


As a nation, we've done lots of good things and lots of bad things.
Considering the large number of the latter, we ought to be more cautious
when we're undertaking "things" that will harm people. As an example,
there's no legitimate excuse or justification for what we did to the
native Americans. We destroyed their civilizations.


I don't see you offering up your land as restitution......

Dave