On 08 Nov 2004 17:21:25 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage.
When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible
action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering the
circumstances.

At the time, it was very similar to the way one of our enemies was treating a
portion of the population that particular government distrusted. Round em up
and imprison them all, sell off their property to the highest bidder belonging
to an approved race. There is no comparison between how
Germany ultimately dealt with a few million of the Jews and how the US and
Canada treated our Japanese citizens- most of those who went to concentration
camp in North America were ultimately released. In fact, all except those who
died from one (nonviolent) cause or another while in camp.

Ok...... I'm not sure what your point is here, other than to draw a
distinction between our policy of internment, and the Germans' desire
for genocide.


Did you know that some of he interred were second or latter generation
Americans? Many had never been to Japan, were not fluent in Japanese, and were
certainly no more of a threat than the
millions of German American and Italian American families that were descended
from other Axis peoples. The German and Italian families had an advantage. they
didn't "look funny".

Well, I wasn't alive then, so I can't make a first hand testimony as
to the reasons why. Suffice to say that someone in the government
thought the threat was real enough to warrant that sort of treatment.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:27:51 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:05:08 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage.
When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible
action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering
the
circumstances.

Of course, the idea was to learn from history, not judge history. We
are
a good people, who have occasionally done bad things. Japanese
internment
was a bad thing.


As a nation, we've done lots of good things and lots of bad things.
Considering the large number of the latter, we ought to be more cautious
when we're undertaking "things" that will harm people. As an example,
there's no legitimate excuse or justification for what we did to the
native Americans. We destroyed their civilizations.


I don't see you offering up your land as restitution......

Dave

It's a little late for that, professor. The hunter/gatherer lifestyle would
quite fit into the small chunks of land that remain in this country.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with
equal
zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like,
and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to
mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to
it.



Will you be offering ordinations on eBay?

No. There will be only one high priest: Me. I have big plans for the
altar
girls. And, there will be the occasional human sacrifice.



Wow...will you accept tithes?

Yes, but only from a list of approved items:

1) Any wine from Dr. Frank Konstantin Vineyards.
2) Keebler Pecan Sandies (cookies, and not the low fat version)
3) Lox & garlic bagels from Brownstein's on Monroe Ave in Rochester
4) Cor-Bon hollow point ammo in .45 Long Colt. Cripes! It's expensive!
5) Free outboard winterizing service
6) Kegs of Molson - the real Canadian version, smuggled across Lake
Ontario.

The list will grow.




We mostly have supermarket bagels down in southern Maryland. They're
lousy. The nearest bagel shop is about 30 miles away.

Have you tried a Belgian Chimay beer? I had one last week and it was
terrific. I'm not much of a beer fancier, so I wouldn't know beyond what
I think tastes good. It was a Chimay "red" and apparently is
manufactured by Trappist monks.

You dare to address the high priest?

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:37:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Ah, so you're a beneficiary of nepotism. That explains allot.

You can always tell dad to take this job and shove it, if his iron
hand bothers you so much. But something tells me you won't.....


Dave

You're right, Dave. What's satisfying about the job is:

1) I don't have to deal with him very much, and the rest of the people are a
gas to work with.
2) Part of my job involves creating sanity from chaos with regard to their
information systems.

But, I have a year or two left. I need to be challenged more.

See, I don't know about you, but if I were in your position, I would
have to wonder whether I got to where I am be the sweat of my own
brow, or through the charity of others. As long as there was that
possibility, I'd never be 100% sure.

I like knowing that I am what I am through my own efforts......

Dave

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:59:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message

You may think you live in an "overwhelmingly Christian nation." Even if
you do,
one of the reasons generations of immigrants came to this country was a
freedom
to practice the religion of their choice.

On reflection, I will acknowledge a misuse of the word 'Christian' in my
original post, wherein I should have stated simply "...Enough of those who
would prohibit a simple prayer at the start of
the school day...".

The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal zeal.



Sorry, but if I were a Jewish or Buddhist kid, and a Christian prayer
werre recited aloud each morning in my public school, I'd be mightily
offended. Recitation of that prayer is practicing religion in a public
facility. And that is not permitted under the separation clause


The separation clause was there from what, the beginning? Yet, I can
remember quite vividly a short prayer given in public school every day
when I was in school. No one complained, not even the Jewish kids (or
their parents) who just sat silent out of respect for the wishes of
the majority.

It's funny that such respect is no longer forthcoming from the
minority. Instead of respect, we get "offense"....

Dave

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:57:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like, and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to it.



Why not, they both smell the same.....


Dave

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:12:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal
zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like, and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to
mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to it.



Will you be offering ordinations on eBay?

No. There will be only one high priest: Me. I have big plans for the altar
girls. And, there will be the occasional human sacrifice.


Where does the fishing part come into play?

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:37:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Ah, so you're a beneficiary of nepotism. That explains allot.

You can always tell dad to take this job and shove it, if his iron
hand bothers you so much. But something tells me you won't.....


Dave

You're right, Dave. What's satisfying about the job is:

1) I don't have to deal with him very much, and the rest of the people
are a
gas to work with.
2) Part of my job involves creating sanity from chaos with regard to
their
information systems.

But, I have a year or two left. I need to be challenged more.

See, I don't know about you, but if I were in your position, I would
have to wonder whether I got to where I am be the sweat of my own
brow, or through the charity of others. As long as there was that
possibility, I'd never be 100% sure.

I like knowing that I am what I am through my own efforts......

Dave


Thanks for the tip, Dave. My dad took all my tests for me in college, and in
the 18 years before before I came to work for him, he stopped by my various
places of employment and did my work while I went fishing and got laid.

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:39:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:12:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The Constitution proscribes the suppression of religion with equal
zeal.



Agreed. You should be able to start any sort of church you like, and
nobody
should be compelled to attend it.

I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. Sorry to
mention
the two in the same clause, but that's my plan and I'm sticking to
it.



Will you be offering ordinations on eBay?

No. There will be only one high priest: Me. I have big plans for the
altar
girls. And, there will be the occasional human sacrifice.

OH OH - Can I help? I have a machete.....

Yeah, but I plan on sacrificing those who are most offensive to my church of
pussy. I'm thinking maybe Dave Hall should be the first to be filleted. If
you can handle that, you're in.


I'm honored, but be advised that your hands will burn the moment you
touch me.

Dave

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Dave Hall wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:37:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Ah, so you're a beneficiary of nepotism. That explains allot.

You can always tell dad to take this job and shove it, if his iron
hand bothers you so much. But something tells me you won't.....


Dave

You're right, Dave. What's satisfying about the job is:

1) I don't have to deal with him very much, and the rest of the people
are a
gas to work with.
2) Part of my job involves creating sanity from chaos with regard to
their
information systems.

But, I have a year or two left. I need to be challenged more.

See, I don't know about you, but if I were in your position, I would
have to wonder whether I got to where I am be the sweat of my own
brow, or through the charity of others. As long as there was that
possibility, I'd never be 100% sure.

I like knowing that I am what I am through my own efforts......

Dave


Dunno why, Dave, but this song reminds me of you:

He’s a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his nowhere land,
Making all his nowhere plans
For nobody.
...

He’s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,

Hey Harry....apropos of nothing:
Q: How can you spot the gentile in a Jewish deli in NY?
A: He's the one who orders ham on raisin bread with butter.