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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:33:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:45:19 -0500, thunder wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:29:47 -0500, Dave Hall wrote: It's this kind of thinking that resulted in over 110,000 Japanese-Americans being "relocated" at the beginning of Wo rldWarII. When you are at war, you have to cover your bases. Cover your bases? By interning American citizens? They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage. When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering the circumstances. Why do you suppose millions of Germans weren't rounded up too? Initially, there was strong sentiment in the country for the Germans which, as you would expect, strong in the middle section of the country. I suppose that had something to do with it. Also, they were white, which also had something to do with it. However, there was point right before we entered the war in which Germans in middle America were not interred as much as spyed and reported on. My maternal Grandparents, for instance, had a shortwave radio taken away from them because they could have received sabotage instructions over it. Even though they had three kids in the service, my mother in the USCG and her two brothers in the Marine Corps, they were still suspect. It just wasn't internment - it was suspicion which can be just as bad. All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 |
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Chuck,
Once ya get past the smell, ya got it licked. Paul "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I'm starting a church centered around fishing and pussy. I don't know. That plan has been tried before, rather often resulting in a religious tradition that doesn't quite pass the sniff test. |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:2v9jedF2js907U1@uni- Sorry, but if I were a Jewish or Buddhist kid, and a Christian prayer werre recited aloud each morning in my public school, I'd be mightily offended. Harry, the fact that you would be offended by A, B, or C is meaningless. You're offended by anything that doesn't conform to your ideas. |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:2v9o92F2jgfj5U4@uni- Not too familiar with the establishment clause, eh? Keep researching. ???? |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:45:19 -0500, thunder wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:29:47 -0500, Dave Hall wrote: It's this kind of thinking that resulted in over 110,000 Japanese-Americans being "relocated" at the beginning of Wo rldWarII. When you are at war, you have to cover your bases. Cover your bases? By interning American citizens? They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage. When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering the circumstances. Dave Why do you suppose millions of Germans weren't rounded up too? Were they on the coast? The Japanese that were interred were the coastal residents. Bill |
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![]() "Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:45:19 -0500, thunder wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:29:47 -0500, Dave Hall wrote: It's this kind of thinking that resulted in over 110,000 Japanese-Americans being "relocated" at the beginning of Wo rldWarII. When you are at war, you have to cover your bases. Cover your bases? By interning American citizens? They had their reasons back then. They were concerned about espionage. When viewed through the filter of time, it looks like an indefensible action. But at the time, it was a reasonable thing to do considering the circumstances. Dave Why do you suppose millions of Germans weren't rounded up too? Were they on the coast? The Japanese that were interred were the coastal residents. Bill Well...let's see...plenty of Germans lived in NYC, NJ and Long Island. German subs got as close as a few miles off the coast of NJ & LI. |
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![]() "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:37:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Perhaps it's the "free exercise thereof" that people cling to when they go to court over this stuff. Not much different from the way both sides of the gun issue dissect the constitution and highlight the bits that help their cause. No, it's nothing like that. Your comment is what we call a "strawman". What idiots call anything is of no consequence. "Doesn't mean **** to a tree", in other words. |
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Were they on the coast? The Japanese that were interred were the coastal
residents. IIRC the Americans... yes, native born Americans of Japanese descent... interned during WW2 were not only from the West Coast. Doug Kanter wrote: Well...let's see...plenty of Germans lived in NYC, NJ and Long Island. German subs got as close as a few miles off the coast of NJ & LI. Heck yeah, there was a German sub sunk at the mouth of the Potomac River! ![]() DSK |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
Two of my childhood neighbors, ancient folks, were part of a volunteer effort to walk the Long Island beaches at night, nicely armed. Even then, NYC was a target, I guess. Nor was it mindless paranoia. There were two incidents of German subs landing agents on the U.S. East Coast; in one case it was on Long Island and they supposedly had orders to meet with "German sympathizers" in NYC (you can meet all types there, I guess), and begin a program of sabotage. We'd call it "terrorism" nowadays of course. BTW the German sub sunk in the mouth of the Potomac was an interned German sub that was used for research by the US Navy after WW2, and sunk there by them on purpose as an artificial reef. But don't tell JAXAshby that, he thinks it was sunk there in the war. Regards Doug "t'other one" King |
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:53:51 -0500, DSK wrote:
Were they on the coast? The Japanese that were interred were the coastal residents. IIRC the Americans... yes, native born Americans of Japanese descent... interned during WW2 were not only from the West Coast. Doug Kanter wrote: Well...let's see...plenty of Germans lived in NYC, NJ and Long Island. German subs got as close as a few miles off the coast of NJ & LI. Heck yeah, there was a German sub sunk at the mouth of the Potomac River! ![]() There is one sunk off of Newport which was a scuttle after being attacked on the surface by the CG and another out by The Dump that is a confirmed Uboat, but they don't have the documentation on it. Later, Tom |
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