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On 1/12/2013 10:47 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. Can I interrupt and ask you to get back to boating topics. You are booring me to tears. |
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On 1/12/13 11:24 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 11:03 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. What does the Inquisition have to do with the lie you and kevin and the rest are telling about "having it shoved down their throats"....?? A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD! Salmonbait the democrats win by asking dishonest questions, and never even caring about the answers... And to think *you* have children. The horror of it. |
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On 1/12/2013 10:02 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" I wonder when the lawsuit is coming.. LOL! Soon enough kevin's sister will be calling on the ACLU because religion was mentioned outside the walls of the church where after all, it could "get on somebody".. LOL! And as to all that brainwashing. I wonder if the military knows the Christians have a secret one afternoon brainwashing method.. I am sure they could make use of something like that!! Eat **** you stupid little twit. Tell us more about your daughter, the one who has the excellent education, is living the good life, world traveler, etc.... You know, the one who works as a customer service person at a medical supply store..... |
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says... On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote: On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote: I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera. "Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were Catholics? "and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera." is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives? " What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:14-17 What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came along and destroyed both. Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours. Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours." That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things. Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death. Cite? http://tinyurl.com/o42at Here you go, ignorant asshole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion 'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD? Are you channeling iLoogy? Are you unable to prove your bull****? Salmonbait There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions done by missionaries. The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53] There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron like you to find, eh? If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always check out the Inquisition. A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD! Salmonbait They are facts, not allegations, idiot. |
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On 1/12/13 12:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , lid says... On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote: I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks. I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I better just be quiet. They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause. Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying. I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that. Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone. My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group. When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not stepped foot in a church since. If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church group. What the hell did she expect? **** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying that Christians can't be trusted with kids? Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to go after her. You're way over the line. Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go after my sister?? You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister. What "bad ****", ****face? But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more than a dunce'. I'm not "Kevin", ****face. I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?" No, ****face, but one could expect that a 10 year old child would be safe from total indoctrination, asshole. The indoctrination in christian churches starts at a much younger age, actually. What do you think goes on at christian pre-schools, christian bible camps, christian day schools? |
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