If you thought...
 

On 1/12/13 10:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 9:56 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
if your kid was in her shoes
and didn't have the guts to say, or the intelligence to know, that she
needed to talk to her parents about such life changing things, that
shows what a ****ty parent you are. Now go teach your kid to smoke, it's
her right. If she gets cancer, it's okay, because you have no money the
taxpayers will take care of the bill, and she can even keep smoking!

Wow, what a loon... At least I taught my kid one thing... ATGATT.. Which
is ALL THE GEAR, ALL THE TIME. It's right on the tank of the bike:)


Yes, that will serve her well when she enlists and has to pack her pack.
What a dad!

If you thought...
 

On 1/12/2013 10:02 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?

**** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter
than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying
that Christians can't be trusted with kids?



Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to
go after her. You're way over the line.

Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go
after my sister??

You're the one who posted the bad **** about your sister.

But, if you consider my remarks offensive to your sister, Kevin, then I apologize for the term 'more
than a dunce'.

I should have said, "What did your sister expect when she allowed her daughter to go on a weekend
trip with a Baptist church group - no religion?"


I wonder when the lawsuit is coming.. LOL! Soon enough kevin's sister
will be calling on the ACLU because religion was mentioned outside the
walls of the church where after all, it could "get on somebody".. LOL!

And as to all that brainwashing. I wonder if the military knows the
Christians have a secret one afternoon brainwashing method.. I am sure
they could make use of something like that!!

If you thought...
 

On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Are you channeling iLoogy?

If you thought...
 

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at
--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

If you thought...
 

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Are you channeling iLoogy?


Are you unable to prove your bull****?

Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

If you thought...
 

On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Are you channeling iLoogy?


Are you unable to prove your bull****?

Salmonbait



There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions
done by missionaries.


The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with
arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus,
particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all
Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed
Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to
force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to
Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused
forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for
forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these
allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against
the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced
conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but
difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53]


There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by
christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron
like you to find, eh?

If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always
check out the Inquisition.

If you thought...
 

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Are you channeling iLoogy?


Are you unable to prove your bull****?

Salmonbait



There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions
done by missionaries.


The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with
arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus,
particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all
Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed
Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to
force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to
Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused
forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for
forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these
allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against
the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced
conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but
difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53]


There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by
christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron
like you to find, eh?

If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always
check out the Inquisition.





A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD!

Salmonbait

--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

If you thought...
 

On 1/12/2013 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at


I was just talking to Tim about that... Democrats win with the question,
never even caring about the answers...

If you thought...
 

On 1/12/2013 11:03 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Are you channeling iLoogy?


Are you unable to prove your bull****?

Salmonbait



There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions
done by missionaries.


The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with
arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus,
particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all
Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed
Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to
force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to
Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused
forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for
forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these
allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against
the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced
conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but
difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53]


There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by
christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron
like you to find, eh?

If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always
check out the Inquisition.





What does the Inquisition have to do with the lie you and kevin and the
rest are telling about "having it shoved down their throats"....??

A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD!

Salmonbait


the democrats win by asking dishonest questions, and never even caring
about the answers...

If you thought...
 

On 1/12/13 11:18 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family
gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their
church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to
proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert
indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were
bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before
they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to
have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a
brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you
says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They
had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans
came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned
wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only
they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I
have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many
times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came
your bull****, ESAD?

Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at


I was just talking to Tim about that... Democrats win with the question,
never even caring about the answers...


Surely you and Tim were not thinking that christian missionaries and
evangelicals and armies of christian soldiers on a religious mission
were innocent of the destruction of indigenous populations and in some
cases civilizations, were you? You might be dumb enough to believe that,
but I can't believe Tim is.