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On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

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On 1/12/2013 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Harry, I give away a lot of firewood to people who need it. and yes,
I will invite people to come to my church. If they wish to, then fine,
if not, do you think I quite giving to them?

I'll let you decide.


The Mormon Missionaries here helped a bunch of folks after last years
storm.. One neighbor was clear she didn't want to hear about the Church,
she was a good Roman Catholic so they just chopped her wood and moved
on... Please Tim, don't listen to the lies of those who had a girlfriend
stolen by some christian kid when they were young...

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On 1/12/13 9:14 AM, JustWait wrote:


The Mormon Missionaries here helped a bunch of folks after last years
storm.. One neighbor was clear she didn't want to hear about the Church,
she was a good Roman Catholic so they just chopped her wood and moved
on... Please Tim, don't listen to the lies of those who had a girlfriend
stolen by some christian kid when they were young...

- - -

Now *that's* funny...christian kids stealing girlfriends. I thought
there was a commandment that said you shouldn't covet someone else's
girlfriend.

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In article ,
says...

On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?

**** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter
than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying
that Christians can't be trusted with kids?



Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to
go after her. You're way over the line.

Oh, but it's okay for the compassionate Christian asshole Herring to go
after my sister??

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In article om,
says...

On 1/11/2013 4:02 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/11/13 3:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on
you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that
didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a
young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the
flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember
looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these
stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting
sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to
avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their
cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and
annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church
group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she
had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your
niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?

**** you, you condescending piece of ****. My sister is FAR brighter
than you, your ugly wife or your emaciated grandkids. Are you saying
that Christians can't be trusted with kids?



Mrs. John Herring is a very nice and gracious lady. There's no reason to
go after her. You're way over the line.

Loogy has been hitting the bong a little too hard lately.

Do you think that it's nice of that compassionate Christian Herring to
"go after" my sister?

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In article db2b8ca7-1081-428b-a0af-e79562e486f1
@x3g2000yqo.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 11, 2:05*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...











On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. *It never made sense. *I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. *I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
* Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
* I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord,
if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging'

That's not even biblical.

I agree.

If you thought...
 

In article , says...

On 1/12/2013 2:11 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 11, 2:05 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...











On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord,
if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging'

That's not even biblical.


It's not a real story either.... Just sayin' Tim.

Now how do you know that, idiot? Would you like to hear it from my
niece??? I'd bet you money, but you have none and are unemployed.

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In article , says...

On 1/12/2013 7:49 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 2:11 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 11, 2:05 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...











On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you
folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood
and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these
stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to
avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and
annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord,
if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging'

That's not even biblical.


It's not a real story either.... Just sayin' Tim.

And even if it is somewhat based on fact.. like even if his neice did go
to a church event nobody tried "brainwashing" (in one day, snerk), but
it's obvious somebody already was conditioned to hate and be intolerant
before her tenth birthday... I could believe that coming from the Noble
Klan...

Someone is "intolerant" because they don't want their child being
subjected to *you have to be born again or you wont' go to heaven, so
let's do it right now"?? You stupid ****, if your kid was in her shoes
and didn't have the guts to say, or the intelligence to know, that she
needed to talk to her parents about such life changing things, that
shows what a ****ty parent you are. Now go teach your kid to smoke, it's
her right. If she gets cancer, it's okay, because you have no money the
taxpayers will take care of the bill, and she can even keep smoking!

If you thought...
 

In article , says...

On 1/12/2013 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Harry, I give away a lot of firewood to people who need it. and yes,
I will invite people to come to my church. If they wish to, then fine,
if not, do you think I quite giving to them?

I'll let you decide.


The Mormon Missionaries here helped a bunch of folks after last years
storm.. One neighbor was clear she didn't want to hear about the Church,
she was a good Roman Catholic so they just chopped her wood and moved
on... Please Tim, don't listen to the lies of those who had a girlfriend
stolen by some christian kid when they were young...

Another story made up in Scotty's insane brain.

If you thought...
 

In article , says...

On 1/11/2013 3:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?


And "brainwashing", really? That's pretty hysterical, but of course it's
what we expect with a made up story:)

So how much did you make off of that Sandy scam with the alleged friend
who was out of a home and had nothing, but his wife was a wall street
banker?