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On 1/11/2013 11:21 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many
interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure
which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway.

I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't
listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those
things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door
solves the problem.

Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my
porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right?

It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You
should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you
could have grown up and been even more like ESAD!

John, I seldom agree with you but have always given you the benefit of
the doubt and tried to speak at least civilly if not with actual earned
respect, as I might to a door-to-door solicitor. I've even tried to
help you a time or two. That's over... ***** you*, really!

You're well aware I didn't say they were wrong and I was right. I said
it didn't make sense to me so I was quiet about it. You know, listen
and perhaps learn something.

And don't make presumptions about my parents, again you're simply
wrong... arrogant and wrong.

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On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?

Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-)

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On Jan 11, 2:05*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. *It never made sense. *I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. *I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
* Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
* I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.

That's truly a shame. One must come to the Lord on their own accord,
if they are going to. I don't believe in 'altar dragging'

That's not even biblical.

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On Jan 11, 2:27*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 1/11/13 3:07 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. *It never made sense. *I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. *I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
* Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
* I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many
interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure
which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway.

I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't
listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those
things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door
solves the problem.

Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my
porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right?

It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You
should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you
could have grown up and been even more like ESAD!

My sister's daughter sure did, they got her alone on a church trip and
tried to indoctrinate her telling her she needed to be born again. She
wouldn't do it but sure was a scared little girl, wondering what would
happen because she wouldn't do it without talking to her parents.

I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

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On Jan 11, 2:27*pm, ESAD wrote:

It was bad enough that entire civilizations in Central and South America
were wiped out by European Christians. These morons wanted to do it again..

Odd, I thought those human sacrificing civilizations became
'Indigenous Catholics"

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On Jan 12, 12:31*am, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?

Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-)

Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and
gatherings. had a lot of fun too.

?;^ )

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On 1/11/2013 11:26 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:31 am, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 12:19 PM, Salmonbait wrote:

If your sister was more than a dunce, she would not have allowed your niece to go with a church
group. What the hell did she expect?

Exactly, what kind of idiot would trust a church group with a child? ;-)

Me. As a kid, I attended lots of church functions, camps and
gatherings. had a lot of fun too.

?;^ )

My sarcasm wasn't obvious? Just teasing John.