On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:06:09 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , lid says...

On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?

How?

If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.

You have to explain every little nuance to Herring, he's really dumb.

It's a fact that I don't have your intelligence.

Thank God for small favors.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:48:30 -0600, Califbill wrote:

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where
the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what
I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years,
and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground
outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a
guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they
were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked
having the water right
there.

Oregon parks seem to be the same cheap price, for any site, power and water
included.

Wow, I've never seen that anywhere.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult! And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Assumptions again?

On 12/26/2012 9:45 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:35:31 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 6:06 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:51 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 12:15 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Great. We just don't see that many tenters paying the extra for the hookups where we camp.

But why would you feel free to annoy them...?

How?

If you're not planning to run a noisy generator near them at night
never-mind.

I can't imagine anyone doing that. Although, I have seen show stars, like Rhonda Vincent, leave the
generator in their bus running all night at the Gettysburg Bluegrass Festival. Their bus was
probably a hundred yards from the nearest RV, and the generator was very quiet.

If you camp where people are doing as you describe, running a noisy generator all night, try asking
them to shut it down. There must be rules about such things. Most places we've been to disallow
running generators after around 10-11 PM.

The rules are probably more enforced in campgrounds where there are a
lot of seasonal campers. The reality is the more transitional sites a
lot of times although the rules are there, the owners are not really
interested in encountering the kind of drunken asshole that usually runs
the things, at that time of night....

I have seen tenters with a generator. They bring everything in a pickup and have room for lots of
stuff. But, I've not heard one running at night.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

On 12/26/12 11:00 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.


We camped out here for five days last summer...

http://tinyurl.com/dynmrev


We didn't bring the tent we don't have or a portable generator. Just
clothes and suntan lotion.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.

My homeowner's insurance covers my tent, and all my camping gear. You should read your policy.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:21:32 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:34:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:11:40 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:14:08 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/25/2012 1:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , lid says...

BS. If available I always take a spot with power/water.

I don't get it. Why? When I tent camped I never carried any electrical
gear that wasn't battery powered. Didn't carry a shower or toilet
either
Used the campground facilities.
Coleman stove, battery lights, 5 gallon collapsing water jug.
Always thought going light weight was what tent camping was about.
Besides that, the RV area is noisy.
And most of them I've seen have concrete aprons. Real hard to drive
tent stakes through that.
Never considered for a second buying an RV spot.
Are you talking about a tent, or a popup tent camper?

See my other response. Perhaps this location and our activities are
unusual. The power is convenient for a coffee pot and microwave which
allow more time on the river. We use a tent.

Oh, so maybe what I said wasn't 'BS'? If you are staying in a place where the tenters are on sites
with electricity and water, then it would be unusual as hell from what I've seen. We've been doing a
lot of camping, with motorcycles/tents and RV's over the past 20+ years, and I've not seen much of
that.

While at Bryce Canyon National Park we stayed at a very nice campground outside the part, It had a
tent area and RV sites. On one of the RV sites was a Moto Guzzi, with a guy and a girl at the picnic
table. They paid the extra bucks for the water and electricity, but they were the only ones we saw
doing that. They didn't have anything that took 110 volts, but they liked having the water right
there.

Let's see, by tent camping, I have a wider choice of beautiful places to
camp, I use a LOT less fuel, I can park just about anywhere, I have a
lot less hassle traveling, can take my boat, don't have insurance of my
tent, can pick up and go in less than a half an hour, and on and on.
Yep, tents are horrible!

Tents are great!

I can't imagine hiking into a beautiful place with a boat. That's got to be difficult!

Where did you get that idea? Are you really as stupid as you act here?


And, if
you're not carrying insurance on whatever gets you to the hiking area, you should reconsider. And,
actually, if while you were camping your tent and everything you owned burnt to the ground, I'll bet
your homeowner's insurance, if you have same, would cover it, at least past the deductible.

I should carry insurance on my tent?? THAT is what I said. It get really
frustrating trying to get you to understand the simplest of things. You
are really stupid.

I cannot understand how you think you have a lot less hassle traveling. Have you ever owned an RV of
any type? If not, then you've no idea of what is or isn't involved.

Yes, I have.

Assumptions again?

No, see above.

You should read your homeowner's policy. I'll bet it *does* cover your tent and all your other
camping equipment.

Does your homeowner's policy cover your travel trailer?? NOW maybe,
possibly, you'll get the point, but somehow I doubt it.

And, if you don't have it, please get insurance on whatever totes your boat and camping gear, and
you to your campgrounds.

Is it very dark up there?