Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
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We have a winner, folks!

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We have a loser, folks! A net nanny loser.


Wilbur Hubbard



Hrump, You must be looking in the mirror...


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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:02:48 -0700, Jessica B
wrote:
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Ok... so if you have boat that'll go 10 mph and the reverse tide is
pulling you at 5 mph vs. you have a boat that'll only go 5 mph....
You are still looking at speeds in excess of what the "normal"
cruising boat is capable of sustaining for any cruise.


No Jessica is NOT. For example, my fast, blue water yacht, "Cut the Mustard"
made a passage from Mobile Bay to Egmont Key (Tampa Bay). The time from sea
buoy to sea buoy was 36 hours. The distance was 300 miles.

300 divided by 36 = 8.3 mph average! The LWL of my fine yacht is 22 feet.
Theoretical hull speed is only about seven knots. But, as you can see, the
theory doesn't always describe fact. So, Jessica is not talking speeds in
excess of normal. If my small yacht can average 8.3mph then imagine the
speeds a fast sailing yacht with a LWL of forty feet could average.

Now, Bruce, if you had ever sailed a real fast cruising boat and not that
big fat rotten old tub you live at the dock in you might have gotten around
the world in half the time it took you just to get to Thailand.


Wilbur Hubbard




Tide and current.

And a fat head!

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:07:57 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:02:48 -0700, Jessica B
wrote:
snip


Ok... so if you have boat that'll go 10 mph and the reverse tide is
pulling you at 5 mph vs. you have a boat that'll only go 5 mph....

You are still looking at speeds in excess of what the "normal"
cruising boat is capable of sustaining for any cruise.


No Jessica is NOT. For example, my fast, blue water yacht, "Cut the Mustard"
made a passage from Mobile Bay to Egmont Key (Tampa Bay). The time from sea
buoy to sea buoy was 36 hours. The distance was 300 miles.

300 divided by 36 = 8.3 mph average! The LWL of my fine yacht is 22 feet.
Theoretical hull speed is only about seven knots. But, as you can see, the
theory doesn't always describe fact. So, Jessica is not talking speeds in
excess of normal. If my small yacht can average 8.3mph then imagine the
speeds a fast sailing yacht with a LWL of forty feet could average.

Now, Bruce, if you had ever sailed a real fast cruising boat and not that
big fat rotten old tub you live at the dock in you might have gotten around
the world in half the time it took you just to get to Thailand.


Wilbur Hubbard


Ah Willie-boy, didn't your Mama ever tell you that it was a sin to
tell lies? Your yellow anchor buoy made a voyage? Only in your
overheated imagination.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

In article s.com,
llid says...

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
We have a winner, folks!

212 lines




We have a loser, folks! A net nanny loser.


Well, you know those people who either connect with a
14.4KB modem or are reading-impaired, get really upset
when they have to sift through all those extra lines
of text. ;-)


Mark Borgerson

In article s.com,
llid says...

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip

OIC... well, I guess a really small boat going fast or slow wouldn't
be as safe as a bigger boat in bad weather?

Depends on the seaworthiness of the boat. Any size boat can be seaworthy as
long as it is built stoutly and has a crew that knows how to handle her in a
blow. A ships life boat is a good example. The ship founders in a storm and
the crew takes to the life boats which are very small in comparison and
expects to survive the storm conditions in them. Sometimes small is better.

snip

I believe you. I just thought this was about sailing not using an
engine. What about on a slightly longer trip.. wouldn't you want to
use sail power as much as you can, so you don't run out?


One would think so, but . . .

Most of the people posting here NEVER sailed a boat that didn't have an
engine. An engine on a sailboat is supposed to be an auxiliary which means a
secondary means of power. Sadly, most of the Rubes here run their diesels
even when the sails are up. And should the wind die and they can't do hull
speed, they 'supplement' the sails with the diesel. It's shameful! Why don't
people like that just admit to themselves that they are not interested in
sailing and just sell the poor sailboat to somebody who would appreciate it
for what it was designed to do and buy a motorboat such as a trawler?


That's good advice----particularly for people in the Pacific Northwest
where the winds are unreliable and the currents a lot higher than
in Florida. In addition, you can actually get far enough off the
water so that you can stay dry in a blow and actually see where you
are going. As I've said before, a majority of the sailboats I see
in the PNW have their engine running.

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.


Mark Borgerson

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:06:17 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Mar 17, 10:11*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

...

OIC... well, I guess a really small boat going fast or slow wouldn't
be as safe as a bigger boat in bad weather?

Dear Jessibur B
Your a woman think of it in terms of a cock; really small going fast
or bigger and faster. What has your experince been my dear?
Robert Pennington Rexroth

Jessica thinks that men who talk about cock size are not very evolved. I
have to agree with her.
Take a hike, Neanderthal!
Wilbur Hubbard



Dear Wilbur,

Your own insecurity about penis size is reflected in Jessibur/Willica
personona.
The thing many men dont want to know about is what women really thinnk
when it comes to cock size. Size DOES matter to a woman its just that
many woman will only admit it in very hushed conversations while
others, more confident and disclosive, will openly declair that a big
dick is a VERY interesting thing to contemplate...

Jessica apears to be a confident capable character.... therefore she
would be very open to a big cock. But there are regional valuse that
prohibit proper ladies from discussion such matters in an open
forum,,,,, butwhen be hind closed doors with a trusted girlfriend the
subtle cues of interest are obvious to those who care to take time and
hear.

My dear will bur, writing for a characte is a very dificult task
requiring a significan writing skills. A skills you are still
developing. The author must truely "become" the other person and that
is near impossible for you... Why? becaure you are an ill educated,
old white typical conservative male. Its not in your nature and you
lack the skills to actually want to learn about someone else. in other
words you can not walk a mile, let alone a few feet, in another
persons (notice i didnot use MAN'S) shoes. Christ man.... just look
what youve been doing here for so many years.... ranting venting
spewing, in an effort to show case your maritime knowledge BUT seldom
do I see any efort on your part to ask questions, seek information,
use those communication skills necessary to understand and learn from
another person. My dear sir yuo will never have a healty relationship
with another person because it is all about Willbur.

I emagin you were a single child maybe you had siblings but they were
much older than you or you were the "golden child" the spoiled
favorite. You were raised with a sense that you could do what you
wanted and that you were always right. You were also most likly one of
those bright nurdy kids in grade school. Smart but not popular and
when you graduated fro HS didnt attend college or if you did never
finished. That is why you are such a verbos know-it-all here..... THis
is your stage to scream: I AM WILLBUR! I AM SMARTER THAN YOU! Yup, u
got lots of frustration willbur. It must be a terible feeling
beleiving you are smarter thatn everyone else but no way to prove it
and no one to listen............................... except here


But Ill listen Willbur
Tell me how bad it feels...............

Certainly Willie-boy must have been an only child.

Can you imagination anyone wanting more like Willie?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:19:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snip

OIC... well, I guess a really small boat going fast or slow wouldn't
be as safe as a bigger boat in bad weather?

Depends on the seaworthiness of the boat. Any size boat can be seaworthy as
long as it is built stoutly and has a crew that knows how to handle her in a
blow. A ships life boat is a good example. The ship founders in a storm and
the crew takes to the life boats which are very small in comparison and
expects to survive the storm conditions in them. Sometimes small is better.

snip

I believe you. I just thought this was about sailing not using an
engine. What about on a slightly longer trip.. wouldn't you want to
use sail power as much as you can, so you don't run out?


One would think so, but . . .

Most of the people posting here NEVER sailed a boat that didn't have an
engine. An engine on a sailboat is supposed to be an auxiliary which means a
secondary means of power. Sadly, most of the Rubes here run their diesels
even when the sails are up. And should the wind die and they can't do hull
speed, they 'supplement' the sails with the diesel. It's shameful! Why don't
people like that just admit to themselves that they are not interested in
sailing and just sell the poor sailboat to somebody who would appreciate it
for what it was designed to do and buy a motorboat such as a trawler?


Wilbur Hubbard

Engineless boats? And who was it searching for the cheapest outboard
he could find, and has posted pictures of his yellow anchor buoy with
the outboard attached?

Why, it was Willie-boy, the armchair sailor who must have been reading
The Pardys this week.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote:

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.

Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much
livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-)

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote:

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.

Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much
livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-)




It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious
for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and fuel
and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped
into the water.

I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified
in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe
clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and
hypocrisy.

Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his
private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people
are responsible for.

Yah, right!


Wilbur Hubbard

On 3/18/2011 1:19 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote:

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.

Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much
livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-)




It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious
for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and fuel
and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped
into the water.

I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified
in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe
clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and
hypocrisy.

Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his
private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people
are responsible for.

Yah, right!


Wilbur Hubbard


While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.