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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, Ernie wrote:
While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. |
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On 3/18/2011 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote: While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. Ewwww......... |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, Ernie wrote: While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. The Tohatsu 6HP is a four-stroke motor and meets Ultra Low emission standards. Not only that, but it is rarely used - unlike your diesel boat which uses the engine every time it gets underway. My sailing yacht moves about 98% of the time under sail. Your diesel boat moves 100% of the time under the pollution-making diesel. You should be ashamed of yourself. And, probably even when you're not underway, you're running a diesel powered generator. So, in effect, you pollute 24/7 when you're out cruising. So, stop trying to change the subject. Just admit your irresponsible and selfish attitude concerning your willingness to pollute the very air we breathe just because you honestly feel your recreation is more important than our health. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Ernie" wrote in message
... On 3/18/2011 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote: While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. Ewwww......... Two equally ignorant Rubes speculating and getting it wrong. LOL! I guess you two are just too environmentally irresponsible to learn how to sail and to enjoy the benefits of sail over motor in a recreational capacity when it comes to the environment. And, you are the ones most hurt by your own pollution machines - you breathe it abundantly when underway as in any trawler the exhaust swirls around the transom and gets drawn forward into the accommodation where the entire boat reeks of diesel fumes and the lungs of the occupants end up polluted with it. Get a clue you two. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote: While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. Funny, it looked like a small horsepower Japanese four stroke outboard to me. You boys just can't give it a rest, can you? |
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On 3/18/2011 1:53 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message ... On 3/18/2011 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote: While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. Ewwww......... Two equally ignorant Rubes speculating and getting it wrong. LOL! I guess you two are just too environmentally irresponsible to learn how to sail and to enjoy the benefits of sail over motor in a recreational capacity when it comes to the environment. And, you are the ones most hurt by your own pollution machines - you breathe it abundantly when underway as in any trawler the exhaust swirls around the transom and gets drawn forward into the accommodation where the entire boat reeks of diesel fumes and the lungs of the occupants end up polluted with it. Get a clue you two. Wilbur Hubbard Wilbur you are a pig. No, I take that back. Pigs are cleaner than you. |
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"Harryk" wrote in message
... Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote: While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water. Funny, it looked like a small horsepower Japanese four stroke outboard to me. You boys just can't give it a rest, can you? Can you say, "MORONS?" http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html Wilbur Hubbard |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:19:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snip OIC... well, I guess a really small boat going fast or slow wouldn't be as safe as a bigger boat in bad weather? Depends on the seaworthiness of the boat. Any size boat can be seaworthy as long as it is built stoutly and has a crew that knows how to handle her in a blow. A ships life boat is a good example. The ship founders in a storm and the crew takes to the life boats which are very small in comparison and expects to survive the storm conditions in them. Sometimes small is better. snip I believe you. I just thought this was about sailing not using an engine. What about on a slightly longer trip.. wouldn't you want to use sail power as much as you can, so you don't run out? One would think so, but . . . Most of the people posting here NEVER sailed a boat that didn't have an engine. An engine on a sailboat is supposed to be an auxiliary which means a secondary means of power. Sadly, most of the Rubes here run their diesels even when the sails are up. And should the wind die and they can't do hull speed, they 'supplement' the sails with the diesel. It's shameful! Why don't people like that just admit to themselves that they are not interested in sailing and just sell the poor sailboat to somebody who would appreciate it for what it was designed to do and buy a motorboat such as a trawler? Wilbur Hubbard Engineless boats? And who was it searching for the cheapest outboard he could find, and has posted pictures of his yellow anchor buoy with the outboard attached? Why, it was Willie-boy, the armchair sailor who must have been reading The Pardys this week. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Balls. Remember the punch line? You get dirty - and the pig loves it? |
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:19:55 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson wrote: However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost of a 36' trawler. Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-) It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and fuel and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped into the water. I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and hypocrisy. Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people are responsible for. Yah, right! Wilbur Hubbard And so speaks Willie-Boy the armchair sailor - (wonder what he has been reading this week?) And, as usual, full of it, right up to his brown eyes. Firstly a marine diesel is not more likely to "spew huge amounts of air pollution" then any other engine. Probably even less harmful pollution then Willie-boy's frequently mentioned Van (where he hand washes his shorts). It is an obvious lie when Willie-boy says that "I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified in thinking that their fun takes precedence". His posts to this group alone demonstrate that he feels that HIS fun takes precedence. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/18/2011 1:19 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson wrote: However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost of a 36' trawler. Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-) It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and fuel and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped into the water. I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and hypocrisy. Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people are responsible for. Yah, right! Wilbur Hubbard While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK. Of course it is O.K. after all, it is Willie-Boy Hubbard (the armchair sailor) who is doing it. (If it were you THEN it would be pollution) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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