As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.

My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob

On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.

My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob

I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.

My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob

I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce




What a simpleton! A ballasted, monohull sailboat will not be able to outrun
the wave train. Fast multi-hulls may but the type of sailboat under
discussion here will have waves approach from astern (when running which is
the hoped-for case in the trades and elsewhere as in 'fair winds') slip
under the stern or quarter and move away from the bow.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse conditions
of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as the bow is
lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the trough just in
time to have the top of the wave approaching from the stern poop it.

Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk or
asleep to observe how things work.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:

As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.
My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob
I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce




What a simpleton! A ballasted, monohull sailboat will not be able to outrun
the wave train. Fast multi-hulls may but the type of sailboat under
discussion here will have waves approach from astern (when running which is
the hoped-for case in the trades and elsewhere as in 'fair winds') slip
under the stern or quarter and move away from the bow.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse conditions
of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as the bow is
lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the trough just in
time to have the top of the wave approaching from the stern poop it.

Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk or
asleep to observe how things work.


Wilbur Hubbard




Talk about simpletons..

I've seem video of a TP53 doing 25 knots - yes, under sail!

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
news
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:

As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.
My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob
I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce




What a simpleton! A ballasted, monohull sailboat will not be able to
outrun the wave train. Fast multi-hulls may but the type of sailboat
under discussion here will have waves approach from astern (when running
which is the hoped-for case in the trades and elsewhere as in 'fair
winds') slip under the stern or quarter and move away from the bow.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse
conditions of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as
the bow is lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the
trough just in time to have the top of the wave approaching from the
stern poop it.

Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk
or asleep to observe how things work.


Wilbur Hubbard


Talk about simpletons..

I've seem video of a TP53 doing 25 knots - yes, under sail!




OMG! Try reading with comprehension. We are talking here about ballasted,
cruising sailboats which are limited to a concept called "hull speed." Race
boats are not cruising boats in case you've not noticed.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
news
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:

As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.
My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob
I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce



What a simpleton! A ballasted, monohull sailboat will not be able to
outrun the wave train. Fast multi-hulls may but the type of sailboat
under discussion here will have waves approach from astern (when running
which is the hoped-for case in the trades and elsewhere as in 'fair
winds') slip under the stern or quarter and move away from the bow.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse
conditions of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as
the bow is lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the
trough just in time to have the top of the wave approaching from the
stern poop it.

Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk
or asleep to observe how things work.


Wilbur Hubbard

Talk about simpletons..

I've seem video of a TP53 doing 25 knots - yes, under sail!




OMG! Try reading with comprehension. We are talking here about ballasted,
cruising sailboats which are limited to a concept called "hull speed." Race
boats are not cruising boats in case you've not noticed.


Wilbur Hubbard




You wish!

quote (right above) A ballasted, monohull sailboat

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
news
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:

As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.
My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a
wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob
I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce



What a simpleton! A ballasted, monohull sailboat will not be able to
outrun the wave train. Fast multi-hulls may but the type of sailboat
under discussion here will have waves approach from astern (when
running which is the hoped-for case in the trades and elsewhere as in
'fair winds') slip under the stern or quarter and move away from the
bow.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse
conditions of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as
the bow is lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the
trough just in time to have the top of the wave approaching from the
stern poop it.

Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk
or asleep to observe how things work.


Wilbur Hubbard

Talk about simpletons..

I've seem video of a TP53 doing 25 knots - yes, under sail!




OMG! Try reading with comprehension. We are talking here about ballasted,
cruising sailboats which are limited to a concept called "hull speed."
Race boats are not cruising boats in case you've not noticed.


Wilbur Hubbard


You wish!

quote (right above) A ballasted, monohull sailboat


So, shoot me. I left out 'cruising' sailboat because I erroneously had the
idea that my readers weren't so totally clueless as to the context of the
discussion.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:25:00 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:23:17 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


As for being pooped, boat length has nothing to do with it. If the
wave travels faster then the boat you get pooped, if the boat is at
wave speed, or faster, then you don't. But then, you don't have to
read a book to discover that little gem... just go sailing.

My dear Bruce. I belive the defintion of getting pooped is when water
is shiped on deck. TO have a wave pass the boat is simply that: a wave
going by.

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob

I suspect that you are correct and I was guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about running before the wind as a
storm tactic, in which case being pooped is usually when you aren't
traveling at wave speed and the waves are breaking over the stern.
Cheers,

Bruce




What a simpleton! A ballasted, monohull sailboat will not be able to outrun
the wave train. Fast multi-hulls may but the type of sailboat under
discussion here will have waves approach from astern (when running which is
the hoped-for case in the trades and elsewhere as in 'fair winds') slip
under the stern or quarter and move away from the bow.

You are really an ignorant oaf, aren't you? Did I ever say that a
monohull could outrun a wave? Nope, as I was replying to someone who
misinterpreted an earlier post I specified as many details as
possible.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse conditions
of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as the bow is
lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the trough just in
time to have the top of the wave approaching from the stern poop it.

Yes, I keep hearing that but frankly, have never seen it happen and as
I wrote in another message I'm not sure that it can happen. Mind
giving us a reference (other then your wild claims),

Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk or
asleep to observe how things work.

Drunk? Am I the guy that went on about his even libations while
anchored (from the picture with the oars sticking out of the dinghy)
very close to shore.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
Trimmed some repeats

You are really an ignorant oaf, aren't you? Did I ever say that a
monohull could outrun a wave? Nope, as I was replying to someone who
misinterpreted an earlier post I specified as many details as
possible.

Duh, you did so imply just that as if a monohull could outrun the wave train
then it could NEVER be pooped unless it fetched up on a reef or some such.

If the wavelength happens to be (because of any number of diverse
conditions
of wind, sea and depth) just slightly different than LOA, as the bow is
lifted by the wave exiting the bow the stern falls into the trough just in
time to have the top of the wave approaching from the stern poop it.

Yes, I keep hearing that but frankly, have never seen it happen and as
I wrote in another message I'm not sure that it can happen. Mind
giving us a reference (other then your wild claims),

Pretty hard to see it happen when tied to the Thailand dock. The most wave
action you see is a Tsunami from time to time. And, you wouldn't even see
that if you were actually out voyaging in deep water.


Pah! You must have been lying about voyaging - either that or too drunk or
asleep to observe how things work.

Drunk? Am I the guy that went on about his even(ing) libations while
anchored (from the picture with the oars sticking out of the dinghy)
very close to shore.


They don't 'stick out'. The fit withing the length of the dinghy. They just
happen to be in the rowlocks in that photo. When stowed as in and around a
dinghy dock they lay completely within the lenght of the dinghy and they are
locked to it with a small length of SS wire.


Wilbur Hubbard

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your post.

Bob

I suspect that you are correct and I was *guilty of jumping to the
conclusion that Willie was talking about ....

Cheers,

Bruce

Hello Bruce... No aplogizes needed I tend to shoot off my mouth after
giving a post only a brife look. I think the last time I did that was
some psot about house bank size and 12 and 110 volt charging systems.
I need to give each post a sincer reading but I am not as patient as
you. so at times i sound like an idiot because i didnt read a post
closley enough but thats okay with me cause most the post here lack
credible content.

bob