Yes Dad. I just realized it when I was closing up the boat and
couldn't get it out. It was raining so I didn't mess with it.

I'll still leave it in while sailing.

Scotty


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You need to get that fixed!

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way
out of the
winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and
the
line
will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the
winch
handle,
that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib
on
the
winch than be impaled by the handle.

I hope that helps!

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
why?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch
handle
and the
stowing the handle someplace besides the winch.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light.
I
did
later on.

Scotty


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in
message
...
What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look
right.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post.

I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the
Chesapeake
Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only
had
to
sail
in
rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds,
too.
Here's
a log book style trip report;

Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the
'junk'
to
the
boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold
his
boat.
Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to
anchor.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG

Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up
in
afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and
recovered
it.
Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day.

Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up
anchor
1000.
See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close
while
looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get
free.
How
embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a
tiring
downwind
ride trying to counter steer the large following waves.
Arrive
at
Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The
main
battery
cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare
wire
to
get
started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM)

Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100.
moderate,
5-10
wind.
Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy
boat.
At
sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in
Smith
Creek,
off
the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM)

Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very
little
wind.
Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect
nights
for
sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed
till
0100
Fri.
morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35
NM)

Sunset;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG
Tangier Island;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG


Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the
dictionary,
there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk.
Decided
to
get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and
tourist
it
up
for
the day.

Wonder who's buried here;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG


Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another
gorgeous
day.
Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa
fame)
and
visit
for the day. (12 NM)

Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20
North,
I
want
to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge
waves
break
on
the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out.
wild
ride.
Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico
River
and
up
the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM)

Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down
some
later
in
the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good
decision.
Arrive
Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM)

Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds
again.
Sail
into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop
anchor
0100.
(69 NM)

Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon.
Weigh
anchor
0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny
again.
Nice
wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends.
(35
NM)

Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with
Haggy
and
Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really
great
looking
schooners.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG



Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis

Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts
to
30,
BUT
from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making
6-6.5
knots
hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip,
Middle
River,
1500. (29 NM)

The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to
an
end.
Great weather, great sailing.

What a great 2 weeks!

Scotty

where?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
It's not a good way. A good way is to have it properly stowed.

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back
to the
Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way

That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them,
Scotty?

Ole Thom

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
Thom, you're not thinking clearly. If you're sailing and you need to
start the engine, then you discover there's a line in the water, you

would take it out of the water?

Scott Vernon wrote:
Yes Dad. I just realized it when I was closing up the boat and
couldn't get it out. It was raining so I didn't mess with it.

You can fix it the Boobsie way... unbolt it, tell the insurance company
it was stolen, then sell it on Ebay. Buy a new winch & winch handle.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:
Yes Dad. I just realized it when I was closing up the boat and
couldn't get it out. It was raining so I didn't mess with it.

You can fix it the Boobsie way... unbolt it, tell the insurance
company
it was stolen, then sell it on Ebay. Buy a new winch & winch handle.

Nah, I'm not that low.

The thumb lever moves but it doesn't unlock. Guess I will have to
take the winch apart?

Scotty

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:40:36 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.


Then the terrorists have won.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Sounds like a great fall trip, Scotty.....glad the weather held for you...
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the Chesapeake
Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had to sail in
rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds, too. Here's
a log book style trip report;

Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the 'junk' to the
boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his boat.
Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to anchor.

Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in
afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and recovered it.
Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day.

Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up anchor 1000.
See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close while
looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get free. How
embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring downwind
ride trying to counter steer the large following waves. Arrive at
Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The main battery
cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire to get
started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM)

Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate, 5-10 wind.
Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat. At
sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith Creek, off
the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM)

Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very little wind.
Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect nights for
sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till 0100 Fri.
morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM)

Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the dictionary,
there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk. Decided to
get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist it up for
the day.

Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another gorgeous day.
Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame) and visit
for the day. (12 NM)

Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North, I want
to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves break on
the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild ride.
Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico River and up
the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM)

Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some later in
the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision. Arrive
Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM)

Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds again. Sail
into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor 0100.
(69 NM)

Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh anchor
0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again. Nice
wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends. (35 NM)

Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with Haggy and
Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great looking
schooners.

Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis

Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to 30, BUT
from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5 knots
hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle River,
1500. (29 NM)

The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an end.
Great weather, great sailing.

What a great 2 weeks!

Scotty

Is anyone surprised that binary billspit thinks winch handles are made
by the boat builder?

bwahahahah

SV


wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:40:36 -0400, "Scott Vernon"

wrote:

the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.



Is anyone surprised that a cheap Siedelmann has broken down
equipment, and the
lubber who bought it doesn't belive in proper maintenence to at
least keep it
operational to it's miserably limited abilities?

As the trolls would say, YAWN!

BB

won what?


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:40:36 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.


Then the terrorists have won.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Fags, I mean flags, in Horass' case.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
won what?


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:40:36 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.


Then the terrorists have won.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!