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Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way out of the
winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and the line will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the winch handle, that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib on the winch than be impaled by the handle. I hope that helps! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... why? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch handle and the stowing the handle someplace besides the winch. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light. I did later on. Scotty "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look right. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post. I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the Chesapeake Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had to sail in rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds, too. Here's a log book style trip report; Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the 'junk' to the boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his boat. Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to anchor. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and recovered it. Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day. Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up anchor 1000. See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close while looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get free. How embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring downwind ride trying to counter steer the large following waves. Arrive at Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The main battery cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire to get started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM) Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate, 5-10 wind. Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat. At sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith Creek, off the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM) Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very little wind. Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect nights for sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till 0100 Fri. morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM) Sunset; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG Tangier Island; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the dictionary, there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk. Decided to get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist it up for the day. Wonder who's buried here; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another gorgeous day. Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame) and visit for the day. (12 NM) Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North, I want to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves break on the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild ride. Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico River and up the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM) Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some later in the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision. Arrive Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM) Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds again. Sail into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor 0100. (69 NM) Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh anchor 0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again. Nice wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends. (35 NM) Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with Haggy and Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great looking schooners. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to 30, BUT from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5 knots hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle River, 1500. (29 NM) The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an end. Great weather, great sailing. What a great 2 weeks! Scotty |
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the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way out of the winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and the line will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the winch handle, that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib on the winch than be impaled by the handle. I hope that helps! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... why? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch handle and the stowing the handle someplace besides the winch. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light. I did later on. Scotty "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look right. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post. I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the Chesapeake Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had to sail in rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds, too. Here's a log book style trip report; Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the 'junk' to the boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his boat. Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to anchor. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and recovered it. Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day. Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up anchor 1000. See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close while looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get free. How embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring downwind ride trying to counter steer the large following waves. Arrive at Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The main battery cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire to get started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM) Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate, 5-10 wind. Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat. At sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith Creek, off the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM) Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very little wind. Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect nights for sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till 0100 Fri. morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM) Sunset; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG Tangier Island; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the dictionary, there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk. Decided to get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist it up for the day. Wonder who's buried here; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another gorgeous day. Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame) and visit for the day. (12 NM) Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North, I want to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves break on the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild ride. Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico River and up the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM) Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some later in the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision. Arrive Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM) Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds again. Sail into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor 0100. (69 NM) Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh anchor 0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again. Nice wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends. (35 NM) Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with Haggy and Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great looking schooners. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to 30, BUT from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5 knots hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle River, 1500. (29 NM) The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an end. Great weather, great sailing. What a great 2 weeks! Scotty |
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Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back to the
Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them, Scotty? Ole Thom |
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Jon,
Not thinking to well. If there is that much line on the handle the Main must be up. If it is up, probably means your sailing. (No engine) Line over the side should be no problem. better than walking over it in the cockpit or getting your feet tangled in it I'm inclined to agree with you about the handle left in the winch. I was taught that, but that was about Sheet winches, which are more active winches. It has carried over on to all winches. In all honesty,Jon, I've lost more handles in the act off inserting and removing them from the winches. In fact, in 58 years of sailing I can't remember ever losing a winch handle any other way. Can you? I've lost my share of them too!! Ole Thom |
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG South. made for a tiring downwind ride trying to counter steer the large following waves. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG Scotty Great pics. What happened to your autopilot? John Cairns |
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You need to get that fixed!
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out. "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way out of the winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and the line will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the winch handle, that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib on the winch than be impaled by the handle. I hope that helps! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... why? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch handle and the stowing the handle someplace besides the winch. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light. I did later on. Scotty "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look right. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post. I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the Chesapeake Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had to sail in rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds, too. Here's a log book style trip report; Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the 'junk' to the boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his boat. Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to anchor. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and recovered it. Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day. Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up anchor 1000. See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close while looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get free. How embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring downwind ride trying to counter steer the large following waves. Arrive at Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The main battery cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire to get started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM) Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate, 5-10 wind. Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat. At sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith Creek, off the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM) Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very little wind. Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect nights for sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till 0100 Fri. morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM) Sunset; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG Tangier Island; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the dictionary, there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk. Decided to get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist it up for the day. Wonder who's buried here; http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another gorgeous day. Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame) and visit for the day. (12 NM) Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North, I want to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves break on the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild ride. Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico River and up the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM) Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some later in the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision. Arrive Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM) Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds again. Sail into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor 0100. (69 NM) Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh anchor 0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again. Nice wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends. (35 NM) Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with Haggy and Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great looking schooners. http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to 30, BUT from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5 knots hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle River, 1500. (29 NM) The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an end. Great weather, great sailing. What a great 2 weeks! Scotty |
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Thom, you're not thinking clearly. If you're sailing and you need to
start the engine, then you discover there's a line in the water, you could be in trouble. It's not a matter of hanging there or being underfoot. Neither is acceptable. I've seen them come out. I've seen people fall on winches, but never on the handles (because they were removed). -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Jon, Not thinking to well. If there is that much line on the handle the Main must be up. If it is up, probably means your sailing. (No engine) Line over the side should be no problem. better than walking over it in the cockpit or getting your feet tangled in it I'm inclined to agree with you about the handle left in the winch. I was taught that, but that was about Sheet winches, which are more active winches. It has carried over on to all winches. In all honesty,Jon, I've lost more handles in the act off inserting and removing them from the winches. In fact, in 58 years of sailing I can't remember ever losing a winch handle any other way. Can you? I've lost my share of them too!! Ole Thom |
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It's not a good way. A good way is to have it properly stowed.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back to the Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them, Scotty? Ole Thom |
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Simple, really. There's a 2 speed, self tailer on each coaming for
the jib sheets. Easy to reach from behind or in front of the wheel. A smaller winch on the cabin top for 3 lines, main halyard, swing keel, spare jib halyard, led from a triple clutch . Scotty "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back to the Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them, Scotty? Ole Thom |
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