Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in the
house. Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone I had
left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. I'd probably be in the
hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd probably use
it.

Eisboch


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... Get a shotgun.

Casady


As you say, it has to be a reasonable fear of personal injury or death.

Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.
This isn't Texas, after all.

When I discussed a threat we had received with our local sheriff, he was
very clear that I couldn't legally just shoot at the "perp" if he was on
the property, but he was equally clear that if the "perp" busted in the
door or even tried to do so, I could blow the idiot away with my 12
gauge. When I asked about "retreat," the sheriff said, "Retreat to
where? A bedroom?" and then he laughed.

Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Tricky stuff.
I usually let out the loud, commanding shout like you did, but I may
have just called 911 instead. Getting too old to have my heart
racing.

--Vic

You've got that right. I have a shotgun that I keep locked up in the
house. Never used it.
Bought it in Florida after finding a huge rattlesnake at our front door.

As I hid behind the tree I was thinking about it, and the cell phone I had
left on the table in the house.
I am glad I didn't think about taking the shotgun. I'd probably be in the
hospital right now.

I think if I awoke and discovered someone *in* our house, I'd probably use
it.

Eisboch


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

You are entitled to use the gun anytime you have a reasonable fear of
death or great bodily harm, and no good non lethal option seems
available. You don't necessarily shoot to protect the TV, lf you tell
him to put it down, and he reaches for a gun... Get a shotgun.

Casady

Eisboch lives in a state that considers you a criminal if you have an
unregistered gun in your possession. Just bringing a gun over the state
line entitles you to one year free room and board courtesy of the state.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Got up at about 4 am this morning because I fell asleep with the TV on and
Keith Olderman's voice droning on and on about Obama's speech woke me up.

Turned on the coffee maker, looked out the window and happened to notice
that several of our outdoor motion detector sensor lights were on,
including those on the old farmhouse at the end of our very long driveway.
The farmhouse is vacant since my mother moved into assisted living, so it
was unusual to see the motion detector sensors had turned the lights on.
Groggy, I figured it was probably an animal .... deer or something that
set them off.

But, then it started to dawn on me that *all* the sensor lights were on.
So, I decided to investigate.

Coffee in hand, I went outside and started walking down the long, 800 foot
driveway towards the old farmhouse. It was still pitch black.... other
than where the lights were shining.

Halfway there, I noticed a moving light at the rear door of the farmhouse
barn. The rear door was open, and the light disappeared into the barn.

I put the coffee cup down and went into stealth mode. Snuck up on the
house, first noting that no car was in the driveway.
So, I quietly snuck around back again and hid behind the trunk of the huge
silver maple tree at the rear of the house.

By this time I am thinking, "This is stupid. What if the person in the
barn is armed?" I looked around in the dark for anything I could use as
a makeshift weapon .... piece of wood .... anything, but there was
nothing.

As I pondered the situation, the light re-appeared from the barn. So, I
jumped out from behind the tree and roared as loudly as I could, "What the
hell's going on?" and started moving towards the light, adrenalin
pumping.

A voice in the dark replied, "****!" ..... then another voice called out
to me ... Then, out of the dark, two cops, dressed in black, one holding
the lease of a beautiful, but threatening black German Shepard came
towards me.

I identified myself as the home owner and had seen unusual lights. Turns
out they were tracking a car thief operating in the neighborhood and the
dog had led them to our property.

Searched all around until dawn, but didn't find him. My heart has
finally stopped racing.


Eisboch


So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)


Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left. Oh
..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a while.
People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)


Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left. Oh
..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a while.
People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch



Italian, huh?

"DK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)


Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch

Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"DK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)


Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch

Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch


Starting a new business to haul the Elitists around?

Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch


http://www.maybachusa.com/index.php

Not your style.

I'm guessing a '40's drive-by car?

Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?

No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch



I missed the link. Who's the driver?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:52:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Got up at about 4 am this morning because I fell asleep with the TV on and
Keith Olderman's voice droning on and on about Obama's speech woke me up.

Turned on the coffee maker, looked out the window and happened to notice
that several of our outdoor motion detector sensor lights were on, including
those on the old farmhouse at the end of our very long driveway. The
farmhouse is vacant since my mother moved into assisted living, so it was
unusual to see the motion detector sensors had turned the lights on.
Groggy, I figured it was probably an animal .... deer or something that set
them off.

But, then it started to dawn on me that *all* the sensor lights were on.
So, I decided to investigate.

Coffee in hand, I went outside and started walking down the long, 800 foot
driveway towards the old farmhouse. It was still pitch black.... other than
where the lights were shining.

Halfway there, I noticed a moving light at the rear door of the farmhouse
barn. The rear door was open, and the light disappeared into the barn.

I put the coffee cup down and went into stealth mode. Snuck up on the
house, first noting that no car was in the driveway.
So, I quietly snuck around back again and hid behind the trunk of the huge
silver maple tree at the rear of the house.

By this time I am thinking, "This is stupid. What if the person in the
barn is armed?" I looked around in the dark for anything I could use as a
makeshift weapon .... piece of wood .... anything, but there was nothing.

As I pondered the situation, the light re-appeared from the barn. So, I
jumped out from behind the tree and roared as loudly as I could, "What the
hell's going on?" and started moving towards the light, adrenalin pumping.

A voice in the dark replied, "****!" ..... then another voice called out to
me ... Then, out of the dark, two cops, dressed in black, one holding the
lease of a beautiful, but threatening black German Shepard came towards me.

I identified myself as the home owner and had seen unusual lights. Turns
out they were tracking a car thief operating in the neighborhood and the dog
had led them to our property.

Searched all around until dawn, but didn't find him. My heart has finally
stopped racing.


Eisboch


At least you know the sensors are working!