On Aug 31, 6:55*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 6:33 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

....

On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:

If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You must think (and probably correctly) that everyone in the world
hates your lying low life guts if you always have a 12 GA shotgun in
your hands.

He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.

Eisboch

No, he has dual 6 packs. I can see him standing there with his little
cowboy suit, shiny star, tight boots, short pants and his fancy vest
riding up on his bloated belly....

Told you...my primary firearm for home protection is a 12 gauge shotgun.
It is exactly what most real experts on home protection recommend.

Your best protection probably is to bend over, spread your cheeks and be
hopeful, eh?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Man, you are obsessed with that.. was it your dad, or someone else
close to your family?

wrote:
On Aug 31, 6:55 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 6:33 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:
If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You must think (and probably correctly) that everyone in the world
hates your lying low life guts if you always have a 12 GA shotgun in
your hands.
He goes wabbit hunting in his bedroom.
Eisboch
No, he has dual 6 packs. I can see him standing there with his little
cowboy suit, shiny star, tight boots, short pants and his fancy vest
riding up on his bloated belly....
Told you...my primary firearm for home protection is a 12 gauge shotgun.
It is exactly what most real experts on home protection recommend.

Your best protection probably is to bend over, spread your cheeks and be
hopeful, eh?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Man, you are obsessed with that.. was it your dad, or someone else
close to your family?


So...how many stairs did you bump down before you caught the rail, and
what precipitated the event?

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:43:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
...

Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...

----------------------------------------------------------------



I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

You have to be very careful in situations like these. Case law points
in one direction only - imminent danger. For you to take any
aggressive action at all you have to be in imminent danger.

The problem lies in how imminent danger is defined in your state and
how your local prosecutor chooses to handle each case individually.
Mostly case law sides, believe it or not, with the concept of
non-aggressive action - meaning retreat to a safe location and/or out
of imminent danger. There is also a question of intent. If you
choose to act aggressively, do you intend to act to inflict harm or
did you act strictly in self defense. Further complication is that
imminent danger is often defined as a direct threat - such as hitting
you or some other type of physical assault - not necessarily the
threat of same.

Just some food for thought.

Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche left.
Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a secret for a
while. People would definitely think I need to be committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?
No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch
http://www.maybachusa.com/index.php


Wow.

Wanna buy a Porsche?

Eisboch



Same price as the GTO? Will cash be OK?

wrote:
On Aug 31, 10:21 am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:59 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 30, 9:53 am, hk wrote:
Someone breaking into your outdoor barn when no one is in it might just
be a thief or trespasser. I'm not sure in my state or any other
progressive state with "castle doctrine" that you would get away with
shooting a trespasser simply on your property or breaking into a barn.
This isn't Texas, after all.
When I discussed a threat we had received with our local sheriff, he was
very clear that I couldn't legally just shoot at the "perp" if he was on
the property, but he was equally clear that if the "perp" busted in the
door or even tried to do so, I could blow the idiot away with my 12
gauge. When I asked about "retreat," the sheriff said, "Retreat to
where? A bedroom?" and then he laughed.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Wow, then your sherrif is a ****ing idiot... A friend teaches a course
on handguns and specifically when to use "deadly force" and one of the
main things is to retreat to a safe area and warn the perp, if he
comes that way..
Tell us, oh highly educated and experienced man of the world, just what
*is* a "safe area" in a modern frame house? In a bedroom behind a hollow
core door? In most modern houses, even a short little schitt like you
could kick open an interior door in about five seconds.
Unless you have a hardened "safe room" in your house, there is no "safe"
area.
If someone has busted in my front door, he is going to be face to face
with the flash of a 12 gauge shotgun.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Wafa.. but anyway, for the benefit of those who are not totally full
of ****....
He said since out bedrooms were upstairs we should take cover up there
and yell down that 911 had been called, all of the valuables like tv
and such were down there and if they came up the stairs, they would be
met with deadly force... I won't bother with your response as my is
true, yours is obviously based on some Lobsta' boat fantasy. You don't
go chasing a burglar, most don't have guns anyway and are counting on
getting in and out without detection... Once "detected" they will
usually run like hell...
Just,
Have you ever wondered why Harry seems so obsessed with you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, it's pretty easy.. He is a cowardly little bitch, and sees what
he thinks is an easy target... It's the mark of a pussy..

WAFA isn't a pussy. He's got a disease that affects his mind and
personality. If Hazel *was* a doctor she would be treating and
monitoring his behavior.

wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:19 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:09 am, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
....
Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??
I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...
----------------------------------------------------------------
I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.
His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".
Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.
If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!
Eisboch
"If the intruder is unarmed..."
Well, how the hell are you going to determine that, if at the second you
looked, he didn't have a gun in his hand? What's in his pants pocket or
jacket pocket or shoved down in the top of his jeans?
My opinion is that if there is a "burglar" in my house late at night, he
is there to do more than steal a stereo, and I don't need to wait around
until I am shot or knifed. My assumption is that anyone who breaks into
my house late at night *is* armed and dangerous, and I will act
accordingly. That means, I'm not going to engage a perp in conversation
"Run like hell" where in the middle of a black night, Eisboch? To the
"perp's" accomplice waiting in a running car in the driveway?
BTW, if you plan to club the "perp" with a bat, you will have to get a
lot closer to him than I would.
I'd rather have the coroner at my house picking up the body of a dead
perp than a dead family member.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Harrytales and Lobsta' boats.. your comments are dismissed...
It's not my problem that you are intellectually and emotionally
unprepared for serious discussions. Go play pocket pool with Loogy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, let's try it! Let's have a "serious discussion" about your
alleged lobster boat, shall we?
Let's then have a "serious discussion" about your father's trans-
Atlantic trip in a small runabout and his fireboat welcome in NYC,
shall we?
I'm betting Harry will choose to ignore this!

Good bet.

"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
So that's how you acquired your car collection. 8)

Very funny. Ha Ha

I've been selling off most of them. Just have the Goat, Porsche
left. Oh ..... one "new" addition, but I think I'll keep that a
secret for a while. People would definitely think I need to be
committed.

Eisboch
Italian, huh?
No, but certainly could have been previously Mafia owned. :-)

http://www.eisboch.com/caddy2.jpg

Eisboch
http://www.maybachusa.com/index.php


Wow.

Wanna buy a Porsche?

Eisboch

Same price as the GTO? Will cash be OK?

Same price as two GTO's and it's yours.

Eisboch

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...


Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??

I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...

----------------------------------------------------------------

I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.

His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".

Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in immediate
physical danger.

If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training
learned while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain. Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!

Eisboch

You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Say what? Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the
US to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?



Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose
child is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort
your kids.

He does have, at least, one dysfunctional kid but that statement is over
the top.

wrote:


- Show quoted text -

Lobsta' boat.. he would find you hiding behind your wife with soiled
pants most likely

Hazel? I doubt she has any idea what WAFA posts.

On Aug 31, 6:42*pm, hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in
messagenews:5ISdncEzfbFqQyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comca st.com...

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Aug 31, 10:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
Anyway, some of you have firearms for protection.. What do you think
is safer:
Retreat, call 911 and warn the perp that he could get shot?
or
Run downstaris totally out of cover and hope to reach the first floor
before some asshole blows your balls off or you end up in a gunfight
with some little kid...??
I would love for someone who has had training to make the call
here...
----------------------------------------------------------------
I knew a guy who was an advanced level martial arts blackbelt. He
taught
several of the popular self defense techniques or styles.
His first line of defense and advice to be used against any aggressive
intruder with a gun was, "Run like hell".
Personally, I don't like guns, even though I own a shotgun. If I were
forced to use it, I would, but not before several warnings to an
intruder to
get the hell out and only if I felt that my wife or I were in
immediate
physical danger.
If the intruder is unarmed, I'd use a bit of old Navy training learned
while
standing Shore Patrol duty. (sorry Harry). I keep one of those short
aluminum bats (used by fishermen to knock a big fish senseless) handy
in
the house. A solid whack with it applied to the shins of just about
anybody will usually cause them to crumple to the floor in pain.
Unless
they are drunk. Causes no permanent damage, but grown men have been
known
to sit on the ground, bawling their eyes out after a good thunk!
Eisboch
You are absolutely correct. I teach people all of the time that the
best defense is to AVOID a confrontation.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------**-----------
Say what? Aren't you the guy who was willing to travel all over the US
to have a dust-up with anyone who irritated you?
Don,
So what is your feeling about mandatory abortions for parents whose
child
is less than perfect? My guess is you would have had to abort your kids.
Go **** yourself asshole!
Looks like you would have been a good candidate for abortion.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Ouch, seems like the trolls are getting frustrated and vulgar again..

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*--------
Don't be an idiot Scotty.
You cry like a schoolgirl if you think someone disrespects your family.

Go **** yourself is, actually, the proper response to any post by Reggie.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow, that's very refined and cultured!