Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:15:32 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:02:11 -0400, hk wrote:

Which goes to show how subjective taste is. I've never liked teak on a
boat. On the exterior, I always preferred mahogany, the real stuff, not
the crap that is sold most often these days as mahogany. In a cabin, I
pretty cherry or oak.
After maintaining hardwoods for many years, when I see a beautifully
finished grain I think.......can I get this in a non-scratch plastic?
Yep, taste is subjective, and changing.

That was wrong actually. I wouldn't get a wood grain in plastic.
I like "light" which might be because my eyes aren't as good as they
once were. Besides the maintenance issues, dark woods don't
lend themselves to bright atmospheres, which is my preference now.
Think formica. Or whatever.

--Vic


Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:


Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

Starboard then. Starboard everywhere except the bunk.
There I want a mattress.

--Vic

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Casady


The underside of Formica is made up of kraft paper infused with resin.

According to the Formica web site, the product is composed of
"melamine-impregnated decorative surface paper combined with
phenolic-treated kraft paper and consolidated
in a press at high pressures."

I have Formica in mind.



--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:07:37 -0400, hk wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Casady


The underside of Formica is made up of kraft paper infused with resin.

According to the Formica web site, the product is composed of
"melamine-impregnated decorative surface paper combined with
phenolic-treated kraft paper and consolidated
in a press at high pressures."

I have Formica in mind.

OK. The paper wasn't evident when I sawed, drilled etc the stuff. I
believe you when you say the paper is there, but I never noticed.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:07:37 -0400, hk wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Casady

The underside of Formica is made up of kraft paper infused with resin.

According to the Formica web site, the product is composed of
"melamine-impregnated decorative surface paper combined with
phenolic-treated kraft paper and consolidated
in a press at high pressures."

I have Formica in mind.

OK. The paper wasn't evident when I sawed, drilled etc the stuff. I
believe you when you say the paper is there, but I never noticed.

Casady


Note that I am not knocking Formica. It's a good product, and useful. I
just don't like it on boats.



--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:41:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.

I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Heck, I thought you googled it, but I guess not. I just did and found
plenty of references to paper, but "resin impregnated paper."
Don't think it matters, but I'm not a materials expert.
I did find that Nordhavn offers formica cladding on the interior
though. Link is too long, but you can google
"RETAIL SPECIFICATIONS - NORDHAVN 57 HULL "

wherein"

"note: If preferred, at time of order, bulkheads, cabinetry and
countertops can be specified in Formica"

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:41:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.
I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Heck, I thought you googled it, but I guess not. I just did and found
plenty of references to paper, but "resin impregnated paper."
Don't think it matters, but I'm not a materials expert.
I did find that Nordhavn offers formica cladding on the interior
though. Link is too long, but you can google
"RETAIL SPECIFICATIONS - NORDHAVN 57 HULL "

wherein"

"note: If preferred, at time of order, bulkheads, cabinetry and
countertops can be specified in Formica"

--Vic


I don't know what Nordhavn uses, but there are several grades and
thicknesses of Formica, including one that is more "plasticy" than "papery."




--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:15:49 -0400, hk wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:41:09 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Formica is just a plasticized coating over paper. It's certainly ok for
a kitchen, but on a boat, I'd want something not paper-backed.
I have been sawing, drilling, sanding, grinding Formica for more than
fifty years and I have never seen a hint of any paper. You must have
another product in mind.

Heck, I thought you googled it, but I guess not. I just did and found
plenty of references to paper, but "resin impregnated paper."
Don't think it matters, but I'm not a materials expert.
I did find that Nordhavn offers formica cladding on the interior
though. Link is too long, but you can google
"RETAIL SPECIFICATIONS - NORDHAVN 57 HULL "

wherein"

"note: If preferred, at time of order, bulkheads, cabinetry and
countertops can be specified in Formica"

--Vic


I don't know what Nordhavn uses, but there are several grades and
thicknesses of Formica, including one that is more "plasticy" than "papery."

It's not great for use in boats because after awhile it gets moldy and
smelly.

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:15:49 -0400, hk wrote:



I don't know what Nordhavn uses, but there are several grades and
thicknesses of Formica, including one that is more "plasticy" than "papery."

I wish the Carolina Skiffs would go to a plain white interior instead
of that speckled/mottled finish. Some like it because it supposedly
"hides" stains.
To me, the finish just looks a bunch of "stains."
Rather make my own stains, and know when I'm making them.

--Vic