"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"plantsman" wrote in message

..... I'm sure it will
be a "low-pitched voice" g. Have you ever heard how they sound in other
countries?

I've spent a considerable time over the last thirty-five years living and
working in various mid-east countries. There is absolutely nothing
unobtrusive about the prayer calls. And it isn't just 6AM. When I lived in
Turkey, the morning call in summer came as early as 3:30AM.

I recall arriving in Saudi Arabia years late at night. I got to bed
about 3 AM in the barracks where I was to live for the next few
months... At about 5:30 the screaming started. I knew prayer calls
happened there, but I was not prepared to hear it for the first time
through an open window from a mosgue across the street. I shot up
from bed... "What the F&#! is that!?!?! JESUS CHRIST!!"

My room mate woke up laughing at me. "*He* has nothing to do with it.
*That* is what we call a 'Prayer Raid Siren.' Welcome to
Saudi...dude."

I recall, maybe two or three times in the several months I was in the
mideast, where a prayer call didn't sounds so bad. But someone with a
good sounding voice doing the call was definitely the exception, not
the rule.

I agree that if other Churches are allowed to ring bells for religious
reasons (as opposed to just announcing that it's noon) then mosques
should be allowed to have prayer calls.

Those of us in rec.boats should go back to the jet ski issue (at least
that political discussion was on topic). When it was brought to your
attention that jet skis did not exceed noise limits, and were in fact
quieter that many other powerboats, how many of you said something
like... "It isn't the volume... Jet Skis make an irritating obnoxious
noise that just grates on people...." ???

Welcome back to the same argument.

I suspect there are a few citizens of Hamtramck who will take care of the
loudspeakers.

Just like they would "take care of" of catholic church bells in Saudi?

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

Just like they would "take care of" of catholic church bells in Saudi?

Catholic church bells in Saudi Arabia?

"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

Just like they would "take care of" of catholic church bells in Saudi?

Catholic church bells in Saudi Arabia?

That's my point... how long do you think they would last?

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

Just like they would "take care of" of catholic church bells in Saudi?

Catholic church bells in Saudi Arabia?

That's my point... how long do you think they would last?

And that's my point -- they'd never get there in the first place.

In article , (Curtis CCR) wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

Just like they would "take care of" of catholic church bells in Saudi?

Catholic church bells in Saudi Arabia?

That's my point... how long do you think they would last?

Not long but I certainly wouldn't feel better becoming more like them over
here.

In article ,
(Curtis CCR) wrote:

I agree that if other Churches are allowed to ring bells for religious
reasons (as opposed to just announcing that it's noon) then mosques
should be allowed to have prayer calls.


I guess I do not understand how you equate the two. If mosques are
allowed loudspeakers, for instance, then perhaps churches should be
allowed to use electronic augmentation for their bells as well? Is that
what you are saying? (I don't understand why rec.boats got on this
list!)

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:13:31 -0500, Phaedrine
wrote:

In article ,
(Curtis CCR) wrote:

I agree that if other Churches are allowed to ring bells for religious
reasons (as opposed to just announcing that it's noon) then mosques
should be allowed to have prayer calls.


I guess I do not understand how you equate the two. If mosques are
allowed loudspeakers, for instance, then perhaps churches should be
allowed to use electronic augmentation for their bells as well? Is that
what you are saying? (I don't understand why rec.boats got on this
list!)

Because someone where ever you are cross posted to this group. You don't have
something against boats, do you?

We have a hard enough time sticking to the topic, without mosques and minarets
and stereo praying systems getting us confused. Trust me, putting up with
b'asskisser is hard enough.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

In article ,
John H wrote:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:13:31 -0500, Phaedrine
wrote:

In article ,
(Curtis CCR) wrote:

I agree that if other Churches are allowed to ring bells for religious
reasons (as opposed to just announcing that it's noon) then mosques
should be allowed to have prayer calls.


I guess I do not understand how you equate the two. If mosques are
allowed loudspeakers, for instance, then perhaps churches should be
allowed to use electronic augmentation for their bells as well? Is that
what you are saying? (I don't understand why rec.boats got on this
list!)

Because someone where ever you are cross posted to this group. You don't have
something against boats, do you?

Definitely not! We are both sailors in this domicile.

We have a hard enough time sticking to the topic, without mosques and minarets
and stereo praying systems getting us confused. Trust me, putting up with
b'asskisser is hard enough.

John H

LOL!! Well John, my apologies for contributing to disturbing your
harmony. Maybe I can make up for the OT post......

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

OB Boats: When we were a little younger, we once took a week to sail
around all the little islands on Erie in a little chartered Morgan with
aft and center cabins. I was pregnant at the time. One of those
unexpected Lake Erie storms came up and just tossed us around like a
plastic toy. After reefing the sails, we tried beating it in to
Marblehead but the winds were so strong we were edging toward a massive
breakwall of rocks. Alas the damn engine wouldn't start to help us out
either. I was greener than Kermit the frog, standing in the cabin well
watching sheet after sheet of rain beat the hell out of my husband who
was thinking "My kingdom for a Cape Dory". But finally he got the
engine started and made it in to shore without a mark. It was a great
sail.

Phae

..

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:45:19 -0500, Phaedrine
wrote:

In article ,
John H wrote:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:13:31 -0500, Phaedrine
wrote:

In article ,
(Curtis CCR) wrote:

I agree that if other Churches are allowed to ring bells for religious
reasons (as opposed to just announcing that it's noon) then mosques
should be allowed to have prayer calls.


I guess I do not understand how you equate the two. If mosques are
allowed loudspeakers, for instance, then perhaps churches should be
allowed to use electronic augmentation for their bells as well? Is that
what you are saying? (I don't understand why rec.boats got on this
list!)

Because someone where ever you are cross posted to this group. You don't have
something against boats, do you?

Definitely not! We are both sailors in this domicile.

We have a hard enough time sticking to the topic, without mosques and minarets
and stereo praying systems getting us confused. Trust me, putting up with
b'asskisser is hard enough.

John H

LOL!! Well John, my apologies for contributing to disturbing your
harmony. Maybe I can make up for the OT post......

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

OB Boats: When we were a little younger, we once took a week to sail
around all the little islands on Erie in a little chartered Morgan with
aft and center cabins. I was pregnant at the time. One of those
unexpected Lake Erie storms came up and just tossed us around like a
plastic toy. After reefing the sails, we tried beating it in to
Marblehead but the winds were so strong we were edging toward a massive
breakwall of rocks. Alas the damn engine wouldn't start to help us out
either. I was greener than Kermit the frog, standing in the cabin well
watching sheet after sheet of rain beat the hell out of my husband who
was thinking "My kingdom for a Cape Dory". But finally he got the
engine started and made it in to shore without a mark. It was a great
sail.

Phae

.
If you'd paid attention to your daddy, you wouldn't have been pregnant and would
have had a much better time!

Harmony!? You haven't spent much time in rec.boats, have you? There is very
little harmony gets tossed around here. I can't believe this thread has lasted
as long as it has without a bunch of horrid name calling.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John,
What kind of comment is this. " If you'd paid attention to your daddy,
you wouldn't have been pregnant and would
have had a much better time!" You're not worth reading, into the trash bin
with you.
Paul



"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:45:19 -0500, Phaedrine
wrote:

In article ,
John H wrote:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:13:31 -0500, Phaedrine
wrote:

In article ,
(Curtis CCR) wrote:

I agree that if other Churches are allowed to ring bells for
religious
reasons (as opposed to just announcing that it's noon) then mosques
should be allowed to have prayer calls.


I guess I do not understand how you equate the two. If mosques are
allowed loudspeakers, for instance, then perhaps churches should be
allowed to use electronic augmentation for their bells as well? Is
that
what you are saying? (I don't understand why rec.boats got on this
list!)

Because someone where ever you are cross posted to this group. You
don't have
something against boats, do you?

Definitely not! We are both sailors in this domicile.

We have a hard enough time sticking to the topic, without mosques and
minarets
and stereo praying systems getting us confused. Trust me, putting up
with
b'asskisser is hard enough.

John H

LOL!! Well John, my apologies for contributing to disturbing your
harmony. Maybe I can make up for the OT post......

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

OB Boats: When we were a little younger, we once took a week to sail
around all the little islands on Erie in a little chartered Morgan with
aft and center cabins. I was pregnant at the time. One of those
unexpected Lake Erie storms came up and just tossed us around like a
plastic toy. After reefing the sails, we tried beating it in to
Marblehead but the winds were so strong we were edging toward a massive
breakwall of rocks. Alas the damn engine wouldn't start to help us out
either. I was greener than Kermit the frog, standing in the cabin well
watching sheet after sheet of rain beat the hell out of my husband who
was thinking "My kingdom for a Cape Dory". But finally he got the
engine started and made it in to shore without a mark. It was a great
sail.

Phae

.
If you'd paid attention to your daddy, you wouldn't have been pregnant and
would
have had a much better time!

Harmony!? You haven't spent much time in rec.boats, have you? There is
very
little harmony gets tossed around here. I can't believe this thread has
lasted
as long as it has without a bunch of horrid name calling.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!