"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...
I'll echo Harry's points above -- DUI, noise, and careless & reckless. If
your jurisdiction couples careless with reckless, you can probably squeeze
even more of the yahoos than with reckless alone. Depending on what part
of
FL, your department probably has some pretty well thought out patrol and
enforcement objectives, but those three would probably yield the greatest
aggregate benefit to the boating community and the public at large.

Thanks for asking, and thanks for doing your job.

JG

Actually, there are no current enforcement objectives (thus the change in
administration). I've spoken with some of the surrounding agency's marine
officers and have gotten some pretty good ideas, but I want to know what the
PUBLIC wants done. Thank you for your input.
--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:35:44 GMT, "swatcop"
wrote:
I want to know what the
PUBLIC wants done. Thank you for your input.

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I can't claim to speak for the entire public but here are some of my
hot buttons:

Really tough noise enforcement. There is no excuse whatsoever for
operating a boat that can be heard more than a mile away. Ideally
this should start with the manufacurers and dealers but tough "on the
water" enforcement would have the same effect over time. No mufflers,
no boating.

Mindless operation in general, particularly personal water craft (jet
skis) that circle in the same general area. This is a constant
annoyance both to anchored boats, and also to home owners who can't
escape.

Mindless enforcement by marine police with a "by the book" radar trap
mentality. Speed zones are out of control in many areas because of
the mindless and irresponsible actions of a few. If a boat is being
operated in a safe manner, leaving a minimal wake, is not bothering
anyone, leave them alone - even if they are running on plane in a
speed zone. Many small boats can run on plane without endangering or
bothering anyone.

Last but not least, be unobtrusive. People are on the water to have a
good time and do not like a police state atmosphere. It's a tough
balance to strike but well worth the effort.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...


I can't claim to speak for the entire public but here are some of my
hot buttons:

Really tough noise enforcement.

You'll be running for town supervisor here next year, right? :-)

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:42:59 +0000, Wayne.B wrote:

I can't claim to speak for the entire public but here are some of my hot
buttons:

Really tough noise enforcement.

As I get older, I'm surprised at how intrusive I find loud noises. Things
that never used to bother me are now an annoyance, loud boats,
un-muffled Harleys, or, my personal favorite, the Sunday mower
marathon.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:42:59 +0000, Wayne.B wrote:

I can't claim to speak for the entire public but here are some of my hot
buttons:

Really tough noise enforcement.

As I get older, I'm surprised at how intrusive I find loud noises. Things
that never used to bother me are now an annoyance, loud boats,
un-muffled Harleys, or, my personal favorite, the Sunday mower
marathon.

I can sort of put up with the mowers, but it's the leaf blowers that get to
me. In my previous residence, my neighbor had a driveway one car wide and 30
feet long. He'd get out the blower and spend an hour chasing down 17 blades
of grass. Meanwhile, when my son was 6 yrs old, he could broom off our
driveway in under 5 minutes, and it was 2 cars wide, 50 feet long.

Maybe this is why we're a nation of fatsos. Too lazy to lift a broom.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:54:13 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

I can sort of put up with the mowers,

With the mowers, it isn't the sound I find objectionable, it's the
marathon. Around here, Sunday is the day for mowing. The problem is that
they don't all mow at the same time, it's an all day affair.

but it's the leaf blowers that get
to me. In my previous residence, my neighbor had a driveway one car wide
and 30 feet long. He'd get out the blower and spend an hour chasing down
17 blades of grass. Meanwhile, when my son was 6 yrs old, he could broom
off our driveway in under 5 minutes, and it was 2 cars wide, 50 feet long.

Maybe this is why we're a nation of fatsos. Too lazy to lift a broom.

I'm sure you have seen this guy. A can of beer in one hand, a hose in the
other, hosing of that driveway. At least it's quieter.

"thunder" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:54:13 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

I can sort of put up with the mowers,

With the mowers, it isn't the sound I find objectionable, it's the
marathon. Around here, Sunday is the day for mowing. The problem is that
they don't all mow at the same time, it's an all day affair.

but it's the leaf blowers that get
to me. In my previous residence, my neighbor had a driveway one car wide
and 30 feet long. He'd get out the blower and spend an hour chasing down
17 blades of grass. Meanwhile, when my son was 6 yrs old, he could broom
off our driveway in under 5 minutes, and it was 2 cars wide, 50 feet
long.

Maybe this is why we're a nation of fatsos. Too lazy to lift a broom.

I'm sure you have seen this guy. A can of beer in one hand, a hose in the
other, hosing of that driveway. At least it's quieter.

His brother lives on my street. He's got a cousin who visits three times a
week, and stays until 1:00 AM. When he leaves, he says goodbye to the
household by honking his horn. Moron.

thunder wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:54:13 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

I can sort of put up with the mowers,

With the mowers, it isn't the sound I find objectionable, it's the
marathon. Around here, Sunday is the day for mowing. The problem is that
they don't all mow at the same time, it's an all day affair.

but it's the leaf blowers that get
to me. In my previous residence, my neighbor had a driveway one car wide
and 30 feet long. He'd get out the blower and spend an hour chasing down
17 blades of grass. Meanwhile, when my son was 6 yrs old, he could broom
off our driveway in under 5 minutes, and it was 2 cars wide, 50 feet long.

Maybe this is why we're a nation of fatsos. Too lazy to lift a broom.

I'm sure you have seen this guy. A can of beer in one hand, a hose in the
other, hosing of that driveway. At least it's quieter.


Down near the front of our little country road, we have a farmer who has
what I can only describe as a muffler-less diesel tractor (or maybe just
a defective muffler) with which he tows a very substantial mower. The
noise is breathtaking.

Guy grows two acres of tobacco in the spring and summer, then hangs it
in a traditional dingy red barn. I had thought the raising of tobacco
had been restricted in Maryland, but there must be loopholes. In any
event, the plant itself looks quite nice when it is fully grown, and has
some interesting flowers. After the tobacco is cleared, he grows
turnips, kale and several other very traditional southern leaf crops for
his table.

He's got a pretty little farm, and the hope is it stays in his family as
a farm, and isn't turned over to a "developer."



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Down near the front of our little country road, we have a farmer who has
what I can only describe as a muffler-less diesel tractor (or maybe just
a defective muffler) with which he tows a very substantial mower. The
noise is breathtaking.

Guy grows two acres of tobacco in the spring and summer, then hangs it
in a traditional dingy red barn. I had thought the raising of tobacco
had been restricted in Maryland, but there must be loopholes. In any
event, the plant itself looks quite nice when it is fully grown, and has
some interesting flowers. After the tobacco is cleared, he grows
turnips, kale and several other very traditional southern leaf crops for
his table.

He's got a pretty little farm, and the hope is it stays in his family as
a farm, and isn't turned over to a "developer."

The plant is in the same family as Nicotiana, a very popular spring annual
that people buy by the millions each year.

As far as why he's growing tobacco, he may be selling it to boutique cigar
makers who've set up shop since people began to think cigars looked and
smelled good. Sort of like the hundreds of coffee and chocolate boutiques we
now have.

Harry Krause wrote:

He's got a pretty little farm, and the hope is it stays in his family as
a farm, and isn't turned over to a "developer."

Oh, you mean someone like yourself who described himself as just doing a
little real estate development? Not that I believe that for a second,
but the hypocrisy you ooze out of every pore makes you something of a
one man freak show.

-- Charlie


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