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"swatcop" wrote in message . com...
"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... "swatcop" wrote in message news:9RMCb.12536 Thank you for your input. Seems the jetskis are a common topic, and will be dealt with more severely. I have been pretty impressed with what you have had to say, until now. Hating jet skies as much as any other sane boater it is still my opinion that if you go into this new assignment with that attitude, and acting on that prejudice as you state you will, than you are just another pain in the ass, bad cop. As for the waterway, I'll be on the west coast in the Gulf of Mexico. Thank you for the welcome and for the information, I plan on making a POSITIVE change out there and not just becoming another pain in the ass. The way to make a positive change is to make your compadres see things more from the user point of view and bring your practical experience as a boater and a human to the job, not by going out with a "piggish" attitude, looking for jetskiers and other (mostly law abiding) folks who don't fall in line with your personal boating or even lifestyle, preferences and treating them "more severely". Scott Ingersoll, who has seen to many good cops fall into this trap... I'm glad someone "pro-jetski" You did not read my post correctly, I am not pro jetski, I said: " Hating jet skies as much as any other sane boater..." Anyway, just wanted to clear that one up... Scotty finally responded so I can get an even view of the situation. As I stated in other replies, I am a fair guy. I won't headhunt jetskis and hand out fistfulls of citations, but if all of the boaters are complaining about the "water etiquette" usually displayed by PWCs, then there's got to be a problem somewhere. I believe that I can get the message out in my area that inconsiderate operation of PWCs will not be acceptable without breaking out the ticket book. Once I warn someone, though, I WILL issue a citation for subsequent offenses. That goes for PWCs, boats, cars, skateboards, or whatever. Thanks for your input, yours will be noted along with the rest of them. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... The way to make a positive change is to make your compadres see things more from the user point of view and bring your practical experience as a boater and a human to the job I'm not sure who you mean by "compadres", I meant his fellow Officers... but if you mean the jetskiers themselves, that'll be a tough nut to crack. First of all, around here they're 90% teenagers. Ask 100 teenagers how often they need a quiet afternoon. Let me know if you get positive answers from more than one or two of them. It's up to their parents to explain to them that some boaters are out on the water to get AWAY from lawnmowers and string trimmers and morons who think "loud pipes save lives", and that it's their job to make sure that nobody has to hear their jet skis at "normal lawnmower distances". Then they are arrogant and stupid, if they want peace and quiet, they should go somewhere where the noisy stuff is not legal. That is a big problem when a few folks can ruin the fun for a lot of other folks... the "few" I refer to are the ones screaming about those who have different ideas about fun boating. Remember, noisy or fast does not mean bad or illegal... or even obnoxious for that matter, it just depends on your point of view... What is really bad, is the intolerance of some for those with different opinions on how to enjoy the public waters. Failing this, there's nothing wrong with them being hunted down and reoriented by the cops. What's are the other options? Put up with the noise? The bad driving? The drunkenness? Or, chase them down ourselves? By the way, the rudest and most dangerous boaters I have run into in the past are almost exclusively on 20 to 30 foot boats, not go fasts' or jetskies either, just drunken idiots in regular stock dealer boats like Maxim or SeaSwirl. Around here the jetskis know they are targets so they more or less are under control.. Scotty, I do my boating on the CT River. |
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"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om... but if you mean the jetskiers themselves, that'll be a tough nut to crack. First of all, around here they're 90% teenagers. Ask 100 teenagers how often they need a quiet afternoon. Let me know if you get positive answers from more than one or two of them. It's up to their parents to explain to them that some boaters are out on the water to get AWAY from lawnmowers and string trimmers and morons who think "loud pipes save lives", and that it's their job to make sure that nobody has to hear their jet skis at "normal lawnmower distances". Then they are arrogant and stupid, if they want peace and quiet, they should go somewhere where the noisy stuff is not legal. As you know, there are boaters and jetskiers who not only need to go fast, but at the same time need to be seen. I've been on vast expanses of water, like Tupper Lake in the Adirondacks, anchored near a shore which was state forest land, with no specific destinations (marinas, homes, channels, etc) and had jetskiers buzz around my boat for extended periods of time. The same thing happens regularly in Irondequoit Bay, in Rochester. There's no excuse for choosing to do such things near a group of anchored boats when you have 10,000 acres of water to choose from. That is a big problem when a few folks can ruin the fun for a lot of other folks... the "few" I refer to are the ones screaming about those who have different ideas about fun boating. Remember, noisy or fast does not mean bad or illegal... or even obnoxious for that matter, it just depends on your point of view... What is really bad, is the intolerance of some for those with different opinions on how to enjoy the public waters. If you'd just made some sort of repair to your engine and needed to max out the boat to see if you'd done the job right, would you do so within a couple of hundred feet of an anchorage, or would you put a lot more distance between you and the anchored boats? Failing this, there's nothing wrong with them being hunted down and reoriented by the cops. What's are the other options? Put up with the noise? The bad driving? The drunkenness? Or, chase them down ourselves? By the way, the rudest and most dangerous boaters I have run into in the past are almost exclusively on 20 to 30 foot boats, not go fasts' or jetskies either, just drunken idiots in regular stock dealer boats like Maxim or SeaSwirl. Around here the jetskis know they are targets so they more or less are under control.. Scotty, I do my boating on the CT River. |
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Ah-ha! Someone who agrees with me! I usually work the road after dark, and
my biggest pet-peeve is business checks and residential checks. I take it personally if my sector has a burglary when I'm working because I'm very thorough. The crime rate in my sector dropped 10% last year, which I'm very proud of and attribute to high visibility patrol after dark. I plan on doing the same thing with the Marine Unit by patrolling the channels and such. Thanks. Marina fairways? Also visit and get to know the marina operators and liveaboards. In areas where liveaboards aren't strictly legal, you'll find there are still people who "spend significant amounts of time on their boats." Think of them as built-in neighborhood watch. Sailboats with wind generators and solar panels are highly likely to be home to someone who keeps their eyes peeled. Worth getting to know the locals and welcoming the transients. Good luck and be safe. dave |
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