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On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:26:59 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: BTW, what's the catechism of your Libertarians on "stop and frisk," which you favor? As part of a larger plan, it is not the worst thing that can happen, particularly if the police use the Terry guidelines of reasonable suspicion. It is hard to deny that the broken windows plan did show striking results against the crime wave that consumed New York before Rudy took over. It should also be noted that in those "safe" European cities you are always talking about, the police have been using these tactics and the low tolerance for quality of life crimes for decades. |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 19:17:18 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 11/27/17 1:32 PM, wrote: On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:26:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: BTW, what's the catechism of your Libertarians on "stop and frisk," which you favor? As part of a larger plan, it is not the worst thing that can happen, particularly if the police use the Terry guidelines of reasonable suspicion. It is hard to deny that the broken windows plan did show striking results against the crime wave that consumed New York before Rudy took over. It should also be noted that in those "safe" European cities you are always talking about, the police have been using these tactics and the low tolerance for quality of life crimes for decades. Not a fan of the 4th Amendment, eh? In the absence of probable cause, why should cops be stopping and frisking...because the object of their attention is a minority? Ah the race card. I knew you would pull that out. Maybe they look harder at some people because that is who is over represented in both the shooters and the victims. Did you even bother to look at the Baltimore Sun table of murder victims? See anything striking about who was being shot? Maybe they are just another biased paper you do not trust. |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 19:33:15 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 19:17:18 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/27/17 1:32 PM, wrote: On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:26:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: BTW, what's the catechism of your Libertarians on "stop and frisk," which you favor? As part of a larger plan, it is not the worst thing that can happen, particularly if the police use the Terry guidelines of reasonable suspicion. It is hard to deny that the broken windows plan did show striking results against the crime wave that consumed New York before Rudy took over. It should also be noted that in those "safe" European cities you are always talking about, the police have been using these tactics and the low tolerance for quality of life crimes for decades. Not a fan of the 4th Amendment, eh? In the absence of probable cause, why should cops be stopping and frisking...because the object of their attention is a minority? Ah the race card. I knew you would pull that out. Maybe they look harder at some people because that is who is over represented in both the shooters and the victims. Did you even bother to look at the Baltimore Sun table of murder victims? See anything striking about who was being shot? Maybe they are just another biased paper you do not trust. How much you want to bet Harry doesn't provide a pertinent answer to that? |
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