On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:00:39 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:50:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.

I just knew someone was going to say that!

I've been thinking of ways to clean off the tops of the slides. The only way to do it without a
separate ladder is to use the trailer ladder, mounted on the trailer, to climb on the roof and walk
around with the broom. But, the trailer ladder is mounted right over the picture window in the back
of the rig. Messes up the view of the river, doncha know. I had cotton socks wrapped over the ends
of the ladder to protect the finish on the rig. Might have to rethink that. I've got an old
motorcycle tire inner tube that may do a good job of protecting and not be as slippery.

And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder!

I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few
days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when
you need one? ;-)

Don't fall on concrete and land on one heel!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:54:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:00:39 -0400, wrote:

I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few
days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when
you need one? ;-)

Don't fall on concrete and land on one heel!

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:14:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:54:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:00:39 -0400, wrote:

I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few
days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when
you need one? ;-)

Don't fall on concrete and land on one heel!

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.

John H Wrote in message:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.


Hopefully all you will need as a cast so the bones can mend by
themselves. Good luck.
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:27:48 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.


Hopefully all you will need as a cast so the bones can mend by
themselves. Good luck.

Back from the doc. Only one break, but it goes from the top almost to the bottom and then bends back
towards the back of the bone. The entire bone is broken, but not much displaced. Therefore he thinks
surgery will not be necessary. He'll know more after a CT scan on Thursday. Right now he's thinking
2-3 months in the boot with no weight on the foot.

Am investing in one of these:
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...311653608.html

Maybe I can motorize it later. Probably outrun a Ducati!

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:23:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.

The VA must be living in the 20th century. The girl shot several xrays
of my foot and seconds later the doc was looking at them on his
computer. (turning, zooming and all the other computer tricks)

On 9/19/2017 9:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:23:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.

The VA must be living in the 20th century. The girl shot several xrays
of my foot and seconds later the doc was looking at them on his
computer. (turning, zooming and all the other computer tricks)


Not unusual though. The VA offered me an ultrasound scan as a general
screening for guys my age. They are looking for the risk of an
abdominal aortic aneurysm which can be deadly because there are no
symptoms and if the artery bursts it's usually fatal because you can't
get to the hospital in time. The lab tech (quite the cutie!) probably
tested guys all day and then later a doc reviewed all the test scans.
The VA is pretty good about this stuff. They follow up with a phone
call later and then a letter in the mail with the results. I was fine.
No risk of an aneurysm.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:32:01 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:23:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.

The VA must be living in the 20th century. The girl shot several xrays
of my foot and seconds later the doc was looking at them on his
computer. (turning, zooming and all the other computer tricks)

No VA involvement. I was taken to a nearby hospital ER. The radiologist provided a written
description and a CD with the pictures to the attending doc in ER. She inserted the CD and showed me
what she thought were fractures. She thought one 'L' shaped fracture was two smaller fractures. I'll
see if I can post a picture of the X-ray just for the hell of it. The second pic is a crop showing
just the fracture. Imagine an 'L' tilted clockwise about 20 degrees.

We'll see if this works.