Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Monday, 18 September 2017 17:47:28 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Monday, 18 September 2017 16:07:14 UTC-3, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

John H Wrote in message:




To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.


I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe
vertigo sets in. :-)



I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really,
really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of
houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews
because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from
the 4' or more of snow load on them.

There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if
the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a
snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall.

Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the
next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to
pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along
the curbs were huge.


I drove a rental to Thunder Bay once. Did what I had to do, and
got out. Kanada in the winter is for the birds.
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As I've said many times, Justine...it's no country for girliemen!


Yet Donella won't leave. I have a few friends whose Scottish
ancesters come to America via Nova Skosha. Would you call them
girly men?
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No silly, I'm calling y'all a girlieman.



They were smart not to stay. You, not so much. What do you expect
from a weakling who needs a power assist tongue wheel to push his
little 14' aluminum boat around his little 4000 sf house
lot.
In summation, who cares what a bowlegged, girlish, dumb, beer
swilling weakling from crime city Kanada has to say.

PS: Good luck with your house painting. We'll be watching, via
maps, how the job progresses over the next several
years.

More insults from pussyboy flajim, the coward.

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Insulting maybe. True, of course.

Far different from your standard fare of lying insults. Ask
Donnieella how many years it took him to complete the last paint
job on his house. Which, if memory serves, was completed about 5
years ago.
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:16:12 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/18/2017 10:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:53:08 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the
next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to
pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along
the curbs were huge.

===

That happens routinely in the "Lake Effect Snow Belts" on the south
side of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. Even small towns budget millions
for snow removal.

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I've spent a total of months in Canada on projects over the years. Never
saw snow like they get in Rochester, New York though. One of my longest
day trips to the University of Rochester lasted over a week. Snow
started and I couldn't get out.

===

Heh, welcome to Upstate NY. Wonderful weather for a few months in the
summer, not so much the rest of the year. It's a good place to be
from. :-)

True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:59:43 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Monday, 18 September 2017 17:47:28 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Monday, 18 September 2017 16:07:14 UTC-3, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.

I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe
vertigo sets in. :-)


I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really,
really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of
houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews
because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from
the 4' or more of snow load on them.

There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if
the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a
snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall.

Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the
next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to
pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along
the curbs were huge.

I drove a rental to Thunder Bay once. Did what I had to do, and
got out. Kanada in the winter is for the birds.
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As I've said many times, Justine...it's no country for girliemen!

Yet Donella won't leave. I have a few friends whose Scottish
ancesters come to America via Nova Skosha. Would you call them
girly men?
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No silly, I'm calling y'all a girlieman.


They were smart not to stay. You, not so much. What do you expect
from a weakling who needs a power assist tongue wheel to push his
little 14' aluminum boat around his little 4000 sf house
lot.
In summation, who cares what a bowlegged, girlish, dumb, beer
swilling weakling from crime city Kanada has to say.

PS: Good luck with your house painting. We'll be watching, via
maps, how the job progresses over the next several
years.
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You are an amusing little girl, Justine.
The Yukon 15 was 2 boats ago. I've had the Legend 16 Xcalibur and now the Bayliner BR 17 since then.
I've got the staging set up on the west side of my house now as we speak and will be getting back at it as soon as things dry up on Thursday.

What are you going to buy next to park in your driveway all year?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:12:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/19/2017 1:14 AM, wrote:


I don't seem to have the problem. I can just forget I am 15 feet in
the air and do my job. I am pretty careful setting up my ladder and I
usually have a bail out plan (something I can grab, a soft place to
land or something) The trick ends up turning a fall into a jump if you
know you are going down and hope for the best.


I doubt all the preparedness in the world would prevent the feeling I
get on a ladder or on a roof, especially near the edge. I've been told
it's really an anxiety attack. I've tried the mind over matter thing,
willing myself not to freak out but when it hits all you can do is wrap
your arms around the ladder and close your eyes until it passes.


I never had a problem climbing onto a roof but, for years, I had
trouble getting back on the ladder to get down. I just worked on it
and now I am fine with it.
When I was inspecting I made a point of climbing up to see things. It
kept the sparkys on their toes because they assumed nobody would look
at anything that was had to get to.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:23:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.

The VA must be living in the 20th century. The girl shot several xrays
of my foot and seconds later the doc was looking at them on his
computer. (turning, zooming and all the other computer tricks)

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:51:47 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:16:12 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/18/2017 10:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:53:08 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the
next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to
pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along
the curbs were huge.

===

That happens routinely in the "Lake Effect Snow Belts" on the south
side of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. Even small towns budget millions
for snow removal.

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I've spent a total of months in Canada on projects over the years. Never
saw snow like they get in Rochester, New York though. One of my longest
day trips to the University of Rochester lasted over a week. Snow
started and I couldn't get out.

===

Heh, welcome to Upstate NY. Wonderful weather for a few months in the
summer, not so much the rest of the year. It's a good place to be
from. :-)

The strange thing is Endicott/Binghampton is not that far away and the
weather is fairly moderate for up north. The lakes don't seem to
affect it that much. I spent Oct-Dec up there in 80, working at the
support center. I went home for Christmas and never went back.
It was still to "up north" for me.

On 9/19/2017 9:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:23:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:07:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:29:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it

Did you bust the heel bone (calcaneus)? The ER doc said surgery with screws and plates. I'm hoping
she was exaggerating. But, the more I read about it, the less I like it!

I was afraid that was what it was but it was just a severely smashed
planar tendon. They talked about doing a lot of stuff but I just wore
cross trainers for about a year instead of my boat shoes and it got
better. I still get a twinge now and then but I am basically OK.

In this case there's no doubt the bone is broke in a few places. But it's not dislocated, so maybe
screws won't be necessary. I'll know a lot more this afternoon when the Doc has looked at the
X-rays.

The VA must be living in the 20th century. The girl shot several xrays
of my foot and seconds later the doc was looking at them on his
computer. (turning, zooming and all the other computer tricks)


Not unusual though. The VA offered me an ultrasound scan as a general
screening for guys my age. They are looking for the risk of an
abdominal aortic aneurysm which can be deadly because there are no
symptoms and if the artery bursts it's usually fatal because you can't
get to the hospital in time. The lab tech (quite the cutie!) probably
tested guys all day and then later a doc reviewed all the test scans.
The VA is pretty good about this stuff. They follow up with a phone
call later and then a letter in the mail with the results. I was fine.
No risk of an aneurysm.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:37:17 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:51:47 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:16:12 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/18/2017 10:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:53:08 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the
next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to
pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along
the curbs were huge.

===

That happens routinely in the "Lake Effect Snow Belts" on the south
side of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. Even small towns budget millions
for snow removal.

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I've spent a total of months in Canada on projects over the years. Never
saw snow like they get in Rochester, New York though. One of my longest
day trips to the University of Rochester lasted over a week. Snow
started and I couldn't get out.

===

Heh, welcome to Upstate NY. Wonderful weather for a few months in the
summer, not so much the rest of the year. It's a good place to be
from. :-)

The strange thing is Endicott/Binghampton is not that far away and the
weather is fairly moderate for up north. The lakes don't seem to
affect it that much. I spent Oct-Dec up there in 80, working at the
support center. I went home for Christmas and never went back.
It was still to "up north" for me.

===

The lake effect snow belt is only about 20 miles wide depending on
wind angle. I spent a winter in Ithaca once and it seemed almost
tropical by comparison to my home town 50 miles to the north. Ice
storms were more of a hazard on the Ithaca hills.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:26:52 -0400, wrote:

I never had a problem climbing onto a roof but, for years, I had
trouble getting back on the ladder to get down.

===

What helps me is to extend the ladder 4 or 5 feet above the roof line
so you've got something to grab onto before you get to the edge.

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:41:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:26:52 -0400, wrote:

I never had a problem climbing onto a roof but, for years, I had
trouble getting back on the ladder to get down.

===

What helps me is to extend the ladder 4 or 5 feet above the roof line
so you've got something to grab onto before you get to the edge.

Now that I have the trick down, it is just as easy for me to have
about 1 rung above the roof line and I go directly over it. I got used
to the drill when I was only going up one story above my deck in
Maryland.
Before that it was a 2 story with a 4' basement wall below that and it
was just spooky on a cheap 3 piece extension ladder, 20 some feet up.