On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder!

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That's the big one right there. Also, use a sturdy plank under the
ladder if the ground shows any sign of softness. Check again part way
up with your full weight on the ladder. Last but not least, tie the
ladder off if at all possible.

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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.

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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder!

===

That's the big one right there. Also, use a sturdy plank under the
ladder if the ground shows any sign of softness. Check again part way
up with your full weight on the ladder. Last but not least, tie the
ladder off if at all possible.

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When I rode the ladder down last year, I was only up about 5'.

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:50:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.

I just knew someone was going to say that!

I've been thinking of ways to clean off the tops of the slides. The only way to do it without a
separate ladder is to use the trailer ladder, mounted on the trailer, to climb on the roof and walk
around with the broom. But, the trailer ladder is mounted right over the picture window in the back
of the rig. Messes up the view of the river, doncha know. I had cotton socks wrapped over the ends
of the ladder to protect the finish on the rig. Might have to rethink that. I've got an old
motorcycle tire inner tube that may do a good job of protecting and not be as slippery.

And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder!

I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few
days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when
you need one? ;-)

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?

The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear,
any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The
caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the
whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:00:39 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:50:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.

I just knew someone was going to say that!

I've been thinking of ways to clean off the tops of the slides. The only way to do it without a
separate ladder is to use the trailer ladder, mounted on the trailer, to climb on the roof and walk
around with the broom. But, the trailer ladder is mounted right over the picture window in the back
of the rig. Messes up the view of the river, doncha know. I had cotton socks wrapped over the ends
of the ladder to protect the finish on the rig. Might have to rethink that. I've got an old
motorcycle tire inner tube that may do a good job of protecting and not be as slippery.

And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder!

I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few
days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when
you need one? ;-)

Don't fall on concrete and land on one heel!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:28:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder!

===

That's the big one right there. Also, use a sturdy plank under the
ladder if the ground shows any sign of softness. Check again part way
up with your full weight on the ladder. Last but not least, tie the
ladder off if at all possible.

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When I rode the ladder down last year, I was only up about 5'.

The distance from my heel to the concrete was probably not much more.

John H Wrote in message:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.

Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough
lean. Got up to the top,
started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the
ladder slipped. Down I went,
landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up
the driveway and into the
house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and
will require surgery.

And all I'd had to drink was coffee!


Say what?
Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot
out for every 4 feet high.

I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with
the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line.
No problem.


The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt,
where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs.



70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-)

I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung.



I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of
days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey
with the drone instead. Much safer.

You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long
time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery.


I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is
pretty easy but I'm careful about it.
What seams are you talking about?

The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear,
any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The
caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the
whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.


Oh. I was thinking your roof might not have been made with a
single sheet of material. Mine has lap sealant anywhere there is
a roof penetration, same as yours. I overlay sealant once or
twice a year anywhere I see it cracking.
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John H Wrote in message:




To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a
bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool.


I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe
vertigo sets in. :-)