On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:55:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15.


There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but
apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn
the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not
for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents
each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom
of the rifle.

Most of those "internet" full auto conversions take a reliable gun and
make it junk ... illegal junk.
There is more to making a real selective fire weapon that shaving down
the sear and trying to prevent the gun from firing before it goes all
the way into battery.
I saw one that actually propped the firing pin extended and fired from
an open bolt with the trigger just holding the bolt open like an M2
grease gun. (It was for an old Marlin SA .22 rifle that already had
the trigger/bolt interlocked.)

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:55:44 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 12:48 PM, John H wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some
months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it
was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more
traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually
prefer using it with small magazines.

My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault
rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized
cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the
30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities,
particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball"
round is about the same.


My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a
black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to
me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a
red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to
send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and
lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have.

Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15.


There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but
apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn
the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not
for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents
each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom
of the rifle.

That gun demonstrates the stupidity of many of the 'assault rifle' laws. It has all the capabilities of the AR15 style guns.

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:31:50 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:55:44 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 12:48 PM, John H wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some
months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it
was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more
traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually
prefer using it with small magazines.

My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault
rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized
cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the
30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities,
particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball"
round is about the same.


My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a
black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to
me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a
red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to
send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and
lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have.

Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15.


There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but
apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn
the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not
for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents
each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom
of the rifle.

That gun demonstrates the stupidity of many of the 'assault rifle' laws. It has all the capabilities of the AR15 style guns.

They were popular with the cops for a while and Ruger even sold them
"selective fire" to some departments. My friend in Md had one in
stainless that came from a southern sheriff's office.
After a while, I guess they just didn't look "rambo" enough for those
SWAT guys and they went with the AR. It may have started when the
military have them a bunch of M-16s.

On 12/7/15 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some
months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it
was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more
traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually
prefer using it with small magazines.

My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault
rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized
cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the
30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities,
particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball"
round is about the same.


My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a
black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to
me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a
red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to
send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and
lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have.

Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15.

More like an HO gauge M14



Well, "S" gauge, maybe.

On 12/7/15 4:31 PM, John H wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:55:44 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 12:48 PM, John H wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some
months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it
was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more
traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually
prefer using it with small magazines.

My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault
rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized
cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the
30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities,
particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball"
round is about the same.


My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a
black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to
me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a
red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to
send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and
lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have.

Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15.


There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but
apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn
the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not
for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents
each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom
of the rifle.

That gun demonstrates the stupidity of many of the 'assault rifle' laws. It has all the capabilities of the AR15 style guns.


Pretty much, though not as easy to overcustomize. I like the Mini now
because it looks and operates more like a traditional semi-auto rifle,
and is a couple of pounds lighter than a traditional good quality AR15.
The "trigger job" I had done on mine makes a big difference in terms of
my ability to control, aim, and hit targets.

But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* !

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:52:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* !

Sounds like you need another can. Maybe you should have bought one
that would handle the .223 and you could still use it with your .22rf
.... assuming you didn't ;-)

On 12/7/15 7:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:52:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* !

Sounds like you need another can. Maybe you should have bought one
that would handle the .223 and you could still use it with your .22rf
... assuming you didn't ;-)


I watched a couple of vids of "silenced" .223 rifles...they aren't that
silent and apparently if you buy subsonic .223 rounds, they tend to be
wimpy. Now, .300 Blackout...that's another matter.

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:48:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/7/15 7:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:52:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* !

Sounds like you need another can. Maybe you should have bought one
that would handle the .223 and you could still use it with your .22rf
... assuming you didn't ;-)


I watched a couple of vids of "silenced" .223 rifles...they aren't that
silent and apparently if you buy subsonic .223 rounds, they tend to be
wimpy. Now, .300 Blackout...that's another matter.

Any center fire SS round will be far from silent but the profile of
the sound usually allows shooting without ear protection.
Most of the sonic crack is actually down range. That is why snipers
like them. You know there was a shot but it is loudest when it is next
to you so it is hard to figure where it came from.
..22 Rim fires don't really have that much crack so it is not that
noticeable. The suppressor the guy I knew had really was not that
great in the house tho because there was so much other noise related
to the shot that it was still very loud. The bullet going into the
trap was a lot of it. He was very disappointed until we went out back
and fired a few down into the bank behind the house.

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle.


Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the
mill ordinary rifle.

How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope.

Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion...

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle.


Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the
mill ordinary rifle.

How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope.

Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion...

I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy.
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