On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.

On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:43:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

Thank you, that was a very cogent and concise response.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

They why won't you shut the **** up about it?
This is just more of your trolling.


Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is
that a new rule that you follow?

The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position
without an ad hominem personal attack.
It seems to elude you.



What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilious. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.

On 8/25/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:42:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:

What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have
no desire or need to try to win you over to my side.

You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person.


Wrong again, Bilil. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting.

I would draw that line at "trophy hunts" and I include fishermen in
that.
Fortunately actually killing trophy fish is on the decline, mostly
driven by the captains who make their living looking for these fish
for their customers.
"Mounts" are usually just a fiberglass replica anyway so now they
encourage taking measurements and maybe a picture, then returning the
fish to the water.

I think you could do the same thing for trophy hunters if you could
change the culture a little.

The reality is, that trophy buck is not anything you want to eat
anyway. You are a lot better off shooting "Bambi" for food and let the
buck go around making more Bambis.



Our deer wander through the yard almost daily, but know enough, somehow,
not to eat my wife's hostas until the fall. They do like rose petals,
though. Sometimes I shoot the deer...with a camera.