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S&W M&P 15/22
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks?  The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so). Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough assed boar. -- Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring. Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter? http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats, prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits. Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave hunter and sportsman/woman. Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru. They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter. I'll be glad to take your word on that. Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine. Pics http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both are requirements for "meat" to be kosher. Leviticus 11:3-8: Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher. What about chicken? No hoof either, and no cud. |
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S&W M&P 15/22
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 7:00:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. Don't know about the cap part, but bagging squirrel is better for you than buying those pre-assassinated steaks, chops, and breasts for $9.95 a lb. Lean meat with no antibiotics and no growth hormones. |
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S&W M&P 15/22
On 8/23/15 10:37 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:49:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:44 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 10:53 AM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:00:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. We don't hear about much bravery from you. Why is that how you frame every argument? How brave is it to go buy a chicken from Giant? Hey, last year I stopped a guy who was verbally abusing and manhandling a woman, and suffered a broken wrist for my trouble, an injury that at best is only 90% "healed." I guess it is brave to pick a fight with someone who kicked your ass. I wasn't the one who ran away...and he didn't kick my ass. I hit him too hard. Yet you are the one who is still 10% disabled ... he won, even if it happened the way you say. I think you just fell. Sorry, shooting squirrels or just about any critter just isn't something that I see as brave or sporting. But, of course, opinions vary. Why is bravery an issue here at all, it is just harvesting food. No, for some it is "sport." What do you call the shooting you do? Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd. |
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S&W M&P 15/22
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#56
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S&W M&P 15/22
On 8/23/15 11:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so). Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough assed boar. -- Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring. Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter? http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats, prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits. Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave hunter and sportsman/woman. Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru. They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter. I'll be glad to take your word on that. Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine. Pics http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both are requirements for "meat" to be kosher. Leviticus 11:3-8: Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher. What about chicken? No hoof either, and no cud. Chicken is not "meat." |
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S&W M&P 15/22
On 8/24/15 1:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 7:00:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. Don't know about the cap part, but bagging squirrel is better for you than buying those pre-assassinated steaks, chops, and breasts for $9.95 a lb. Lean meat with no antibiotics and no growth hormones. What about groundhogs and rats, dressed up, say, with a side order of palmetto bugs for crunch? |
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S&W M&P 15/22
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S&W M&P 15/22
On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 3:34:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 1:24 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 7:00:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. Don't know about the cap part, but bagging squirrel is better for you than buying those pre-assassinated steaks, chops, and breasts for $9.95 a lb.. Lean meat with no antibiotics and no growth hormones. What about groundhogs and rats, dressed up, say, with a side order of palmetto bugs for crunch? Groundhogs are good bbq don't know about the rats and palmetto bugs. never had them. are they good? |
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S&W M&P 15/22
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 9:58:47 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. I've used short 22s in the woods for a long time. Got lots of squirrels raccoon and gobs of rabbits too. All I used as a kid was shorts. Couldn't afford anything else. I see you were very courageous (in Harry's terms) also. I'll bet you ate all the critters you shot, too. Well,l maybe not the raccoons. We sold the 'coon skins for a buck-fifty, which was enough to buy three more boxes of .22 shorts. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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