On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn



Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is
relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active
around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River?

Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart.


My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.

No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do
with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is
just too existential for you.

It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and
look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't
have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who
kills for food is the target of your "disdain".
I guess you know, democrats hunt too?
It is not all just republicans.

Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40
years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the
desire to **** on people who do.




So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me
know how that works out for you.

I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport
hunting" or "sport hunters."

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 24 August 2015 12:19:06 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:16:57 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn

You're not Harry Krause, else you would be scared. Simple.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



Here...dedicated to you, Bill...er..Johnny...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwby-XvzpH8

I wouldn't click on a link from you or Krause. Too scary. I'd be afraid, like you
were when faced with Scotty or slammer.

Hope it was good for you, Donne'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.



No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style.

It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He reverts
to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support
Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger").


That's bull****.

On 8/24/15 1:33 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 24 August 2015 12:19:06 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:16:57 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:

Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.


So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave
are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run
into a petulant pomeranian?

We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and
bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared.

There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within
walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the
lawn

You're not Harry Krause, else you would be scared. Simple.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



Here...dedicated to you, Bill...er..Johnny...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwby-XvzpH8

I wouldn't click on a link from you or Krause. Too scary. I'd be afraid, like you
were when faced with Scotty or slammer.



Not to worry...I'd hate to be in your general vicinity when you exhaled.

wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:07:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:36:52 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

*I* wouldn't be making judgments on the killing of poultry, since
"kosher" is something of only peripheral and formerly proximity interest
to me

===

I think the word you are searching for is "proximate". That's all
superstition though isn't it?

I really believe "kosher" had more to do with reflecting the state of
food safety 4000 years ago than anything god wanted.
Would you eat a crab or lobster you bought on the side of the road
before we had refrigeration?
I imagine hogs all had trichinosis

Hogs had two problems. Trichinosis and they ate the same as humans. Poor
way of getting protein.

wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 06:34:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 1:24 AM, Tim wrote:


Don't know about the cap part, but bagging squirrel is better for you
than buying those pre-assassinated steaks, chops, and breasts for $9.95 a lb.

Lean meat with no antibiotics and no growth hormones.



What about groundhogs and rats, dressed up, say, with a side order of
palmetto bugs for crunch?

Not my cup of tea but it might be healthier for you than an antibiotic
laced chicken. Bugs constitute a large part of the protein intake in
most of the 3d world.

In Africa we had Mopani Worms. Are a protein staple of the diet there.
Are actually a caterpillar.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 11:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range
punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a
better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks?

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more...

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so).

Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in
his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough
assed boar.
--


Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring.

Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter?

http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl

Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats,
prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits.

Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close
to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave
hunter and sportsman/woman.



Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru.
They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of
Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter.


I'll be glad to take your word on that.

Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine.
Pics
http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm


Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both
are requirements for "meat" to be kosher.

Leviticus 11:3-8:

Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the
animals, you may eat.

Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher.

What about chicken? No hoof either, and no cud.



Chicken is not "meat."

It ain't?

On 8/24/15 2:39 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 11:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range
punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a
better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks?

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more...

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so).

Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in
his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough
assed boar.
--


Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring.

Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter?

http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl

Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats,
prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits.

Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close
to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave
hunter and sportsman/woman.



Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru.
They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of
Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter.


I'll be glad to take your word on that.

Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine.
Pics
http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm


Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both
are requirements for "meat" to be kosher.

Leviticus 11:3-8:

Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the
animals, you may eat.

Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher.

What about chicken? No hoof either, and no cud.



Chicken is not "meat."

It ain't?



Not in the sense of barnyard animals with hooves who also chew their
cuds. That was my reference to "meat."

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:45:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Not in the sense of barnyard animals with hooves who also chew their
cuds. That was my reference to "meat."

===

*Your* reference is based on *your* superstitions. Of course *your*
superstitions have much more validity than anyone elses since you are
so *special*.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by
the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't.



No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't
think exactly like you about things.
It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or
even someone with credible environmental credentials.



That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style.

It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He reverts
to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support
Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger").


That's bull****.

True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!