Got out to the range this morning. Among other things, finally got some to sight in my 15/22. After fine-tuning of the cheap, chinese red dot, I put 20 rounds of Gem-Tech 22LR subsonics in a one inch target dot at 30 yards without really trying. The first ten were slow, but the last ten were rapid fire, shots about one second apart. No bipod or bench rest, just elbows on the table. I really like this rifle, sweet shooting and has a good stock trigger. The stamp for the can should be here any day. Squirrels beware!

A couple weeks ago I shot about 50 rd of /223 through a SW mp and was quite impressed. One downside for me was it was way feather light compared to the big bore bolt actions that I'm used to, and was all over the target at 100 yd.s

After I settled down, it was still a better gun than my aim but I was able to throw FMJ into about a 3" group. I liked it and am considering one.

On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:39:11 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
A couple weeks ago I shot about 50 rd of /223 through a SW mp and was quite impressed. One downside for me was it was way feather light compared to the big bore bolt actions that I'm used to, and was all over the target at 100 yd.s

After I settled down, it was still a better gun than my aim but I was able to throw FMJ into about a 3" group. I liked it and am considering one.

I also shot my AR with some generic 5.56 reloads. Was still settling the scope down (a drop-zone Bushnell 4x), but hit the center at 100 yrds after a few rounds. Still not satisfied, but after some more tweaking and some better ammo, I expect better.

The M&P is a great rifle.

On 8/21/15 7:39 PM, Tim wrote:
A couple weeks ago I shot about 50 rd of /223 through a SW mp and was quite impressed. One downside for me was it was way feather light compared to the big bore bolt actions that I'm used to, and was all over the target at 100 yd.s

After I settled down, it was still a better gun than my aim but I was able to throw FMJ into about a 3" group. I liked it and am considering one.



I don't know if Smith makes an HBAR model, but these typically are about
a pound heavier as delivered because of the thicker barrel, and they
also tend to be easier to control and more accurate. I also upgraded to
a handguard that allowed me to free-float the barrel.

I shoot 1-1/2" to 1-1/4" groups at 100 yards with my AR 15, a Colt HBAR,
and decent but not premium ammo with brass shell casings and non-ferrous
bullets. That's sitting at a shooting table with the rifle resting on a
bag. One of these days, I'll buy some more expensive "precision target"
ammo and see if that and more practice gets me down to 1" groups. I'm
also thinking of upgrading the trigger.

My "other" AR type rifle is a Smith M&P 15 in .22LR. It's a fun plinker,
and with my silencer and subsonic CCI "standard" ammo, the only sound
you hear is the bolt cycling.

You can run a .223/5.56 AR with a silencer, but the ammo to do that is
pricey, and so is the silencer. Also, subsonic ammo in that caliber
doesn't have nearly the punch the standard ammo does.

If I do get one it'll be chambered in 7.62x39

Tim wrote:
If I do get one it'll be chambered in 7.62x39

Cheap ammo?
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Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS.

wrote:
Got out to the range this morning. Among other things, finally got some
to sight in my 15/22. After fine-tuning of the cheap, chinese red dot, I
put 20 rounds of Gem-Tech 22LR subsonics in a one inch target dot at 30
yards without really trying. The first ten were slow, but the last ten
were rapid fire, shots about one second apart. No bipod or bench rest,
just elbows on the table. I really like this rifle, sweet shooting and
has a good stock trigger. The stamp for the can should be here any day.
Squirrels beware!

Red dots are not a scope. They are for fast acquisition of target. I have
an M&P in 5.62 shoots well. Thinking of mounting the Leopold scope on my
..06 on it.

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 3:07:39 AM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
Got out to the range this morning. Among other things, finally got some
to sight in my 15/22. After fine-tuning of the cheap, chinese red dot, I
put 20 rounds of Gem-Tech 22LR subsonics in a one inch target dot at 30
yards without really trying. The first ten were slow, but the last ten
were rapid fire, shots about one second apart. No bipod or bench rest,
just elbows on the table. I really like this rifle, sweet shooting and
has a good stock trigger. The stamp for the can should be here any day.
Squirrels beware!

Red dots are not a scope. They are for fast acquisition of target. I have
an M&P in 5.62 shoots well. Thinking of mounting the Leopold scope on my
.06 on it.

Didn't say it was a scope. Don't need one at 30 yards. But they do have to be sighted in, or else the dot won't be where the bullet is going.

On 8/23/15 3:07 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
Got out to the range this morning. Among other things, finally got some
to sight in my 15/22. After fine-tuning of the cheap, chinese red dot, I
put 20 rounds of Gem-Tech 22LR subsonics in a one inch target dot at 30
yards without really trying. The first ten were slow, but the last ten
were rapid fire, shots about one second apart. No bipod or bench rest,
just elbows on the table. I really like this rifle, sweet shooting and
has a good stock trigger. The stamp for the can should be here any day.
Squirrels beware!

Red dots are not a scope. They are for fast acquisition of target. I have
an M&P in 5.62 shoots well. Thinking of mounting the Leopold scope on my
.06 on it.


Oh, I was wondering who was shooting squirrels. Figures.

At the moment, I have a Vortex SPARC II red dot on my Colt AR15. But
sometimes I shoot with just the iron sights. I put a 1x4 Vortex scope on
my Henry .357, and it incorporates a lighted dot you can switch on or off.

I have a bunch of it, but I "discovered" there really is no need to pay
extra to get so-called "suppressor" ammo for a silenced .22LR firearm.
The CCI Standard Velocity is subsonic and sounds the same out of a
suppressed firearm as the more expensive and usually harder to find
"suppressor" ammo. Eight or nine cents a round typically will get the
CCI stuff, and it is pretty available these days.