On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:06:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 3:34:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 1:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 7:00:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks?

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more...

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

Don't know about the cap part, but bagging squirrel is better for you than buying those pre-assassinated steaks, chops, and breasts for $9.95 a lb.

Lean meat with no antibiotics and no growth hormones.



What about groundhogs and rats, dressed up, say, with a side order of
palmetto bugs for crunch?

Groundhogs are good bbq don't know about the rats and palmetto bugs. never had them. are they good?

My dad roasted a groundhog that I'd shot when I was a kid. Roasted it for several
hours. We all sat down to eat, he cut a chunk off for everyone, and we proceeded to
start chewing. About a half-hour (slight exageration) later, we all spit our chunks
out. Too tough to chew.

You must have had a young female, and we probably had a 20 year-old boar. Never tried
groundhog again.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

Sorry for the dinner table misfortune John. Then again. Later came the crockpots. Raccoon, squirrel and groundhog do really well bbq,d in a crockpot.

Here's some ways to prepare and cook groundhog
http://briansbelly.com/belly-recipes/groundhog-roundup/

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Sorry for the dinner table misfortune John. Then again. Later came the crockpots. Raccoon, squirrel and groundhog do really well bbq,d in a crockpot.

I'll bet they would. Put enough Stubb's spicy sauce on it, and anything'd be decent
from a crockpot.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 06:25:08 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 10:37 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:49:29 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 12:44 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 10:53 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:00:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

We don't hear about much bravery from you. Why is that how you frame
every argument?
How brave is it to go buy a chicken from Giant?


Hey, last year I stopped a guy who was verbally abusing and manhandling
a woman, and suffered a broken wrist for my trouble, an injury that at
best is only 90% "healed."


I guess it is brave to pick a fight with someone who kicked your ass.


I wasn't the one who ran away...and he didn't kick my ass. I hit him too
hard.

Yet you are the one who is still 10% disabled ... he won, even if it
happened the way you say. I think you just fell.




Sorry, shooting squirrels or just about any critter just isn't something
that I see as brave or sporting. But, of course, opinions vary.

Why is bravery an issue here at all, it is just harvesting food.



No, for some it is "sport."

What do you call the shooting you do?



Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 06:26:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 8/23/15 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:07:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
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Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats,
prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits.

Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close
to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a
brave hunter and sportsman/woman.


Aren't you the guy who was telling us about shooting stray dogs in the
woods?


No, I stated that feral dogs that were attacking in packs were a concern
out on some of the trails near the Shenandoah. I never said I was
shooting them. I do carry on the trails, though.

Uh Huh. They must have missed all of those stories of the people being
killed in stray dog attacks in my paper.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 06:31:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
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Chicken is not "meat."


I will have to tell my vegan friends that.

On 8/24/15 9:48 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Sorry for the dinner table misfortune John. Then again. Later came the crockpots. Raccoon, squirrel and groundhog do really well bbq,d in a crockpot.

I'll bet they would. Put enough Stubb's spicy sauce on it, and anything'd be decent
from a crockpot.
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So long as you want everything to taste like spicy barbecue sauce.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 06:34:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/24/15 1:24 AM, Tim wrote:


Don't know about the cap part, but bagging squirrel is better for you than buying those pre-assassinated steaks, chops, and breasts for $9.95 a lb.

Lean meat with no antibiotics and no growth hormones.



What about groundhogs and rats, dressed up, say, with a side order of
palmetto bugs for crunch?

Not my cup of tea but it might be healthier for you than an antibiotic
laced chicken. Bugs constitute a large part of the protein intake in
most of the 3d world.

On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 06:25:08 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 10:37 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:49:29 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 12:44 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 10:53 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:00:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.

We don't hear about much bravery from you. Why is that how you frame
every argument?
How brave is it to go buy a chicken from Giant?


Hey, last year I stopped a guy who was verbally abusing and manhandling
a woman, and suffered a broken wrist for my trouble, an injury that at
best is only 90% "healed."


I guess it is brave to pick a fight with someone who kicked your ass.


I wasn't the one who ran away...and he didn't kick my ass. I hit him too
hard.

Yet you are the one who is still 10% disabled ... he won, even if it
happened the way you say. I think you just fell.




Sorry, shooting squirrels or just about any critter just isn't something
that I see as brave or sporting. But, of course, opinions vary.

Why is bravery an issue here at all, it is just harvesting food.



No, for some it is "sport."

What do you call the shooting you do?



Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd.

Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it?


Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and
sodapop bottles?

Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal
is not.