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On 9/22/2011 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:34:34 -0400, wrote:

I have no problem with imprisonment for life with hard labor ..

The problem is, that doesn't happen either. "Hard labor" has been seen
as cruel and unusual.
If this is truly a "bad" man, the security problems of having this guy
out of the cage makes this a very expensive program. That is why
"supermax" prisoners only get an hour a day out of the box, alone in a
slightly bigger box. They also cost $100,000 per inmate year, just for
the incarceration expenses.
The real expense issue with "lifers" is the last 10 years of the life.
They end up costing us hundreds of thousands in medical care and
people will insist that they get the finest medical care the country
has to offer. At what point can you withhold medical care?
You end up with questions like "should Ted Kaczynski get an organ
transplant"?

I am still waiting for the "proportionality" answer.

If you are throwing people in federal prison for life for being pot
farmers and stock scammers what can you do to show mass murder is a
worse crime?
What do you do when a "lifer" kills again in prison?
Are all subsequent murders "free"?
That sure makes corrections officer a tougher job.
It also tends to reinforce the old practice of "Cop killers never make
it to the station alive"

I don't like the death penalty either and I have a lot of doubts about
the guy they just killed. I think the best form of "proportionality" is
12 jurors... If a jury of your peers feels you deserve it, and their
decision is formed within the guidelines of the law, you die...

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