pamsuks (JayCeeCG) wrote in message ...
in a former life I used to be a coastie. The way i was trained is that the cg
aux decal is not a way to avoid a boarding. what the decal does is let the
boarding officer know that the vessel had a SAFETY insepection, and that the
B/O doesn't have to waste time counting fire extinguishers , flares, and PFD's.


As far as why you were boarded? probably cause it is early in season, and the
coasties do have to show that they have been out doing thier job. One of the
reasons i got out of the CG was i really didn't like the law enforcement aspect
of the mission. and I suspect that since 9-11 that aspect has definitely been
emphasized.

IMOP

Jared Crane


Law enforcement in the U.S. has become very heavy-handed, almost
bullying in its style and substance. CG stops and "inspects" U.S.
citizens' owned boats, but cannot find Cuban rafters on inner tubes at
coastline in FL. What's wrong with this picture? And now, if the CG
boat officer "thinks" you are headed to or are returning from Cuba,
your boat can be siezed.

Not to mention its a very BIG ocean and those rafts are very small. Don't
have a good radar picture either. Even in it's early days when the CG was the
US cutter revenue service, the coast guard has been boarding us citizens
vessels. The gov't has been at it since 1790....thats a lot of institutional
memory to have to overcome.

Law enforcement in the U.S. has become very heavy-handed, almost
bullying in its style and substance. CG stops and "inspects" U.S.
citizens' owned boats, but cannot find Cuban rafters on inner tubes at
coastline in FL.

When was the last time you saw a Cuban rafter on an inner tube carrying a
bomb? Sounds to me like they have their priorities straight.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27









Jared Crane

Not to mention its a very BIG ocean and those rafts are very small. Don't
have a good radar picture either. Even in it's early days when the CG was the
US cutter revenue service, the coast guard has been boarding us citizens
vessels. The gov't has been at it since 1790....thats a lot of institutional
memory to have to overcome.

Law enforcement in the U.S. has become very heavy-handed, almost
bullying in its style and substance. CG stops and "inspects" U.S.
citizens' owned boats, but cannot find Cuban rafters on inner tubes at
coastline in FL.

When was the last time you saw a Cuban rafter on an inner tube carrying a
bomb? Sounds to me like they have their priorities straight.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27









Jared Crane

Does the CG avoid sailboats?


yes, according to a coastie. said the coasties don't like climbing up on
sailboats -- it is a drag -- and usually everything is okay to boot.

Does the CG avoid sailboats?


yes, according to a coastie. said the coasties don't like climbing up on
sailboats -- it is a drag -- and usually everything is okay to boot.

In article ,
pamsuks says...

(Snip)

As far as why you were boarded? probably cause it is early in season, and the
coasties do have to show that they have been out doing thier job. One of the
reasons i got out of the CG was i really didn't like the law enforcement
aspect
of the mission. and I suspect that since 9-11 that aspect has definitely been
emphasized.

Interesting. We visited the Eaton's Point light and CG station last year and
more than one young Coastie told us he was in the service to help people, not
for law enforcement.

We were also boarded in early spring last year as we were motoring up Flushing
Bay after leavinbg the slip. The Coasties had come in to fuel at the fuel dock
and on their way back out boarded us. Clearly, they had nothing better to do
and we were the only boat out there that day. We got a clean sheet. Indeed, I
had to prod him to look at some things, like our pyrotechnics. I am proud that
everything on the boat is as it should be and didn't want him to overlook
anything. But it seems that west of Execution Rock on Long Island Sound
pyrotechnicas are not required and he did not bneed to examine them for their
expiration dates.

In article ,
pamsuks says...

(Snip)

As far as why you were boarded? probably cause it is early in season, and the
coasties do have to show that they have been out doing thier job. One of the
reasons i got out of the CG was i really didn't like the law enforcement
aspect
of the mission. and I suspect that since 9-11 that aspect has definitely been
emphasized.

Interesting. We visited the Eaton's Point light and CG station last year and
more than one young Coastie told us he was in the service to help people, not
for law enforcement.

We were also boarded in early spring last year as we were motoring up Flushing
Bay after leavinbg the slip. The Coasties had come in to fuel at the fuel dock
and on their way back out boarded us. Clearly, they had nothing better to do
and we were the only boat out there that day. We got a clean sheet. Indeed, I
had to prod him to look at some things, like our pyrotechnics. I am proud that
everything on the boat is as it should be and didn't want him to overlook
anything. But it seems that west of Execution Rock on Long Island Sound
pyrotechnicas are not required and he did not bneed to examine them for their
expiration dates.

(Capt Lou) wrote in
:

If the Coast Guard continues to board vessels with the latest CGAUX
safe boating decals displayed, why bother getting a decal? How many
times a month does a boat need to be boarded and inspected? Besides,
the 2004 USCGAUX decal has an isnurance company's name printed on it.
I am cutting it off of mine.


You should own a jetboat in Charleston, Capt Lou. There are several police
bureaucracies all looking for targets:
City of Charleston
County of Charleston
USCG
Dept of Natural Resources dressed up like SWAT teams in camo'd boats you
can't see in the dark trying to kill themselves and the person who ran over
them. They think Wappoo Cut is in the Mekong Delta and are playing GI Joe.

My little yellow Sea Rayder had the USCG-AUX current decal on it and I even
pointed it out to the Coasties. It meant nothing and was a waste of my
boating time to get the boat inspected. The inspection report from the
Coasties WAS worth keeping, however. I kept it handy at the helm to show
the other bureaucrats and they accepted the inspection report, even if it
were a few months old. I simply offered it with my driver's license and
the boat tax verification (registration) card. Showing it passed, only a
few went snooping around in the engine/storage compartment to make sure I
wasn't trying to sneak any Budweiser across the boarder from Mt Pleasant.

Many of the unconstitutional stops-for-no-reason were thinly disguised drug
raids without warrant or valid reasons. They dug around in the boat, I
think, because there were teens aboard my boat.

It's nonsense and ought to be stopped. I don't remember signing away any
of the Amendments to our Constitution at the DNR boat license office.......

Larry W4CSC

(Capt Lou) wrote in
:

If the Coast Guard continues to board vessels with the latest CGAUX
safe boating decals displayed, why bother getting a decal? How many
times a month does a boat need to be boarded and inspected? Besides,
the 2004 USCGAUX decal has an isnurance company's name printed on it.
I am cutting it off of mine.


You should own a jetboat in Charleston, Capt Lou. There are several police
bureaucracies all looking for targets:
City of Charleston
County of Charleston
USCG
Dept of Natural Resources dressed up like SWAT teams in camo'd boats you
can't see in the dark trying to kill themselves and the person who ran over
them. They think Wappoo Cut is in the Mekong Delta and are playing GI Joe.

My little yellow Sea Rayder had the USCG-AUX current decal on it and I even
pointed it out to the Coasties. It meant nothing and was a waste of my
boating time to get the boat inspected. The inspection report from the
Coasties WAS worth keeping, however. I kept it handy at the helm to show
the other bureaucrats and they accepted the inspection report, even if it
were a few months old. I simply offered it with my driver's license and
the boat tax verification (registration) card. Showing it passed, only a
few went snooping around in the engine/storage compartment to make sure I
wasn't trying to sneak any Budweiser across the boarder from Mt Pleasant.

Many of the unconstitutional stops-for-no-reason were thinly disguised drug
raids without warrant or valid reasons. They dug around in the boat, I
think, because there were teens aboard my boat.

It's nonsense and ought to be stopped. I don't remember signing away any
of the Amendments to our Constitution at the DNR boat license office.......

Larry W4CSC

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:49:30 +0000, Larry W4CSC wrote:

(Capt Lou) wrote in
:

If the Coast Guard continues to board vessels with the latest CGAUX safe
boating decals displayed, why bother getting a decal? How many times a month
does a boat need to be boarded and inspected? Besides, the 2004 USCGAUX decal
has an isnurance company's name printed on it. I am cutting it off of mine.


You should own a jetboat in Charleston, Capt Lou. There are several police
bureaucracies all looking for targets:
City of Charleston
County of Charleston
USCG
Dept of Natural Resources dressed up like SWAT teams in camo'd boats you can't
see in the dark trying to kill themselves and the person who ran over them.
They think Wappoo Cut is in the Mekong Delta and are playing GI Joe.


Wow - am I ever glad I live in Canada! I've NEVER been stopped or boarded: not
in 40 years of boating on everything from runabouts to skiffs to dinghies to
36-ft sailboats.

(I've also never been asked for my fishing license. Go figure...)

Lloyd
"Far Cove" Catalina 36